VillaParkAvenue Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: Yep, can't see Mings staying although he would be a good backup. He'll want first team football after losing his England place. ------------------Martinez--------------- Cash Tarkowski Carlos Digne -----------------Kamara------------------ Can’t see Newcastle signing Mings. They see themselves as CL challengers already and if we don’t want a player, they won’t take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Can’t see Newcastle signing Mings. They see themselves as CL challengers already and if we don’t want a player, they won’t take him. It's not that we don't want Mings, it's that he won't want us. He's not going to sit as a back up in a World Cup year especially when he's just been dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, duke313 said: It's not that we don't want Mings, it's that he won't want us. He's not going to sit as a back up in a World Cup year especially when he's just been dropped. I don’t see Mings being happy as a bench option either. Especially not after having been captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 hope we wrap this one up quickly now, would be great to get it done before end of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: I don’t see Mings being happy as a bench option either. Especially not after having been captain. It'll be best if we move him on if he's not going to play. Not sure this will end well as I can't see on earth who would buy him. If rumours leak as well, fans of interested clubs will all kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Definitely is. You do such a splendid job of providing evidence to back up your claims that he’s so much better than Mings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I think I would prefer this deal to Diego Carlos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I think I would prefer this deal to Diego Carlos. Because of his PL experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Tarkowski knows this league, well.....Thats a huge consideration. It sounds like a no brainer to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, TRO said: Tarkowski knows this league, well.....Thats a huge consideration. It sounds like a no brainer to me. League experience isn't essential, Phil Jones has plenty of Premier League experience doubt many would take him. Anyway, I believe Tarkowski and Carlos will both sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, duke313 said: League experience isn't essential, Phil Jones has plenty of Premier League experience doubt many would take him. Anyway, I believe Tarkowski and Carlos will both sign. I think league experience is important.....but you are making it sound like the ONLY consideration, which is not what was proposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, duke313 said: League experience isn't essential, Phil Jones has plenty of Premier League experience doubt many would take him. Anyway, I believe Tarkowski and Carlos will both sign. It's not essential, which is why he didn't say it was? It is a huge consideration. Most our squad has prem experience as a Villa player and nothing else. I'd rather get a well-regarded, solid Prem CB than someone with zero knowledge of the league, if their ability is similar. Add to that they'll both want big contracts, but one is a free transfer and the other is someone Atletico don't want to lose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, skarroki said: It's not essential, which is why he didn't say it was? It is a huge consideration. Most our squad has prem experience as a Villa player and nothing else. I'd rather get a well-regarded, solid Prem CB than someone with zero knowledge of the league, if their ability is similar. Add to that they'll both want big contracts, but one is a free transfer and the other is someone Atletico don't want to lose I think its Sevilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, jacketspuds said: I think I would prefer this deal to Diego Carlos. or both. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: It'll be best if we move him on if he's not going to play. Not sure this will end well as I can't see on earth who would buy him. If rumours leak as well, fans of interested clubs will all kick off. So a player with lots of experience who until 2 days ago was an England international, is almost unsaleable? I agree that it might be tricky for him to lose his England place and potentially his place in our team, plus perhaps the captaincy too. He may be persuaded to continue with us or want to move on, but selling him wouldn’t, in my opinion, require superhuman sales ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: So a player with lots of experience who until 2 days ago was an England international, is almost unsaleable? I agree that it might be tricky for him to lose his England place and potentially his place in our team, plus perhaps the captaincy too. He may be persuaded to continue with us or want to move on, but selling him wouldn’t, in my opinion, require superhuman sales ability. I think it would be tricky to sell for a price we're happy with yes. What do you think the lowest we'd accept is? £20m? £25m? Don't see a club paying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Can’t see Newcastle signing Mings. They see themselves as CL challengers already and if we don’t want a player, they won’t take him. I realise the summer is not January but they had our backup left back playing for them over the past few months in their best run of results in 25 years… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Because of his PL experience? Little bit of that. Little bit of the rumoured £40m price tag for a 29-year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Definitely is. .We will have to disagree on that one. At best they are on a similar level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: .We will have to disagree on that one. At best they are on a similar level. I think a fight between the two would be PPV worthy as well. I'd pay right now to see a trilogy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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