lexicon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, CVByrne said: If we get 8 or 9 points from our remaining games we'll end 9th in the points table since Gerrard took over. Which is okish. Would mean Newcastle, Wolves and the big 6 ahead of us. 9th would do. I think most people who are worried right now would be happy to give Gerrard the summer if he achieves a top half finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2022 Think we’ll fall short, but I suspect this thread might now take the place of the relegation thread when discussing the season’s overall trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Think we’ll fall short, but I suspect this thread might now take the place of the relegation thread when discussing the season’s overall trajectory. I mean it's still largely in our hands to finish top half. Ten points from remaining and we'd be 9th I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 7 points may do it...beating Palace anyway should mean finishing above them you'd think and depends how seriously leicester take rest of the season. Got Spurs and Chelsea away still to play. Really annoyed we messed up the two games v Wolves still....as I predicted six weeks back they're having a wretched end to the season and still got to play Chelsea, Liverpool and Man. City so they'll finish in 8th on less points than we got for finishing 11th last year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 It's all rather mediocre isn't it, hoping to somehow get enough points for a 9th/10th place finish? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, AvonVillain said: It's all rather mediocre isn't it, hoping to somehow get enough points for a 9th/10th place finish? It is a mediocre season, you're right, but its important we finish as high as possible. If you're a prospective signing this summer and you're being sold a vision to join a villa that finished 9th to push for Europe next season, it's far more attractive/believable than if we'd finished 15th, which sounds like we were just about good enough to stay in the league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, turvontour said: I mean it's still largely in our hands to finish top half. Ten points from remaining and we'd be 9th I'd imagine. Ten points would be a phenomenal return over the next five games, considering two of them are Liverpool and Man City. I think seven points is more likely and that requires us to beat a resurgent Burnley - maybe by our second game against them they’ll be safe and take their foot off. We’ll be relying on a couple of Brighton, Newcastle, Leicester, Palace to drop a few. Maybe, but I think it’s just out of reach. 2 minutes ago, AvonVillain said: It's all rather mediocre isn't it, hoping to somehow get enough points for a 9th/10th place finish? I’d rather be talking about 7th or 8th (or above), yeah. But the prize money for a league position one or two places higher isn’t to be sniffed at. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 We’ve been shit this season, seen our best player leave, replaced managers with one with big question marks attached and yet still could finish 10th. Not all that bad really. Need to really push on next year though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, AvonVillain said: It's all rather mediocre isn't it, hoping to somehow get enough points for a 9th/10th place finish? It's better than 13th/14th which was looking very likely two weeks back. Top half would show to some prospective signings we are making slow progress and could challenge for europe next season. If Grealish was still here we'd be over 50 points already and still have a chance to finish 7th or even 6th so shows what a difference a high class player can make if we can find one this summer. Edited April 30, 2022 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 If we'd have only beaten Wolves in just one of our games against them, we would be just three points behind them now with a game in hand, and three of their last four games being against Chelsea, Man City, and Liverpool. Not only would we be in with a chance of finishing above them, but finishing eighth, shows the difference one result can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2022 It’s been one of those seasons. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 points v Palace and Burnley should be the target now, that would at least be strong end to the season as imagine we'll be soundly beaten in the other two games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 30/04/2022 at 15:39, AvonVillain said: It's all rather mediocre isn't it, hoping to somehow get enough points for a 9th/10th place finish? I said somewhere else the other day… I heard for two years “Villa would be relegated if they sold Grealish” so if we finish midtable it puts that to bed at least and is maybe less of a factor next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 01/05/2022 at 05:23, useless said: If we'd have only beaten Wolves in just one of our games against them, we would be just three points behind them now with a game in hand, and three of their last four games being against Chelsea, Man City, and Liverpool. Not only would we be in with a chance of finishing above them, but finishing eighth, shows the difference one result can make. If we had beaten them first time round, and not thrown away that 2-0, Smith would have kept his job - season would have been entirely different. Which I guess agrees with your point of the importance of individual games, not disagrees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: It’s been one of those seasons. I was thinking something similar on Monday when it was Man Utd’s last home game of the season yet we still have three home games not starting until next week. The Burnley thing is even more bizarre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, nick76 said: I was thinking something similar on Monday when it was Man Utd’s last home game of the season yet we still have three home games not starting until next week. The Burnley thing is even more bizarre. Think it’s nuts given that neither us or them had cup runs that our postponed game couldn’t be rearranged in the last 5 months. Now we have to play them twice when their form has picked up and they’ll be fighting tooth and nail to stay on in the league. Still think we’ll win at least one of those games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Shit for 2/3 of the match against the worst team in the league and now we are gonna finish top half. I know we aren’t getting relegated and I’m hardly an optimist but **** me lol, some of you lot are as delusional as the ones convinced we are still gonna go down. Who are we going to beat after brushing aside the mighty Norwich between now and the end of the season? Mental. Edited May 4, 2022 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 30/04/2022 at 22:02, Villa87 said: We’ve been shit this season, seen our best player leave, replaced managers with one with big question marks attached and yet still could finish 10th. Not all that bad really. Need to really push on next year though. Absolutely. It also shows that finishing up to 7th place or so isn’t that hard, midtable teams move up and down between seasons and it’s sometimes hard to even explain why. This season has been a bit different though when it comes to the 6 big clubs, who with the exception of Man U have done well. Often a couple of the big clubs flop and finish outside the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Shit for 2/3 of the match against the worst team in the league and now we are gonna finish top half. I know we aren’t getting relegated and I’m hardly an optimist but **** me lol, some of you lot are as delusional as the ones convinced we are still gonna go down. Who are we going to beat after brushing aside the mighty Norwich between now and the end of the season? Mental. Understatement of the year! You honestly don’t think we can beat Burnley in two attempts or Palace at home? I’m not saying we will but I don’t think we’re so bad we haven’t got a hope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Shit for 2/3 of the match against the worst team in the league and now we are gonna finish top half. I know we aren’t getting relegated and I’m hardly an optimist but **** me lol, some of you lot are as delusional as the ones convinced we are still gonna go down. Who are we going to beat after brushing aside the mighty Norwich between now and the end of the season? Mental. This thread is the battle for a top half finish, it’s pretty much the only realistic aim left and it’s more appropriate than discussing it in the relegation thread due to the likelihood now of staying up. Since the Norwich game really only two posters have said we might manage it ( @turvontour and @VillaChris) so I’m not sure this thread is exactly dripping with confidence. The two Burnley games and Palace are winnable, however that doesn’t mean I think we’ll win all three. I don’t think we’ll win all three. Maybe Burnley will have secured safety by the time of our second meeting, maybe Palace will be further on beach than we will. Really don’t know. I think at best we’ll manage two wins and maybe a draw. Meaning we’ll probably fall short of a top ten finish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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