KentVillan Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, John said: Three consecutive sixth-place PL finishes...bring it on! Indeed! And we have to be realistic about what type of player is going to get us there. When you finish mid-table, your best bet is signing players who are roughly Europa League quality. You can try going after Champions League players, but there's usually a catch - a bad injury record, a spell of bad form, or they're past the peak, etc. If we then progress to a Top 6-8 finish, we can start attracting a higher calibre of player, but it's going to be a journey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Indeed! And we have to be realistic about what type of player is going to get us there. When you finish mid-table, your best bet is signing players who are roughly Europa League quality. You can try going after Champions League players, but there's usually a catch - a bad injury record, a spell of bad form, or they're past the peak, etc. If we then progress to a Top 6-8 finish, we can start attracting a higher calibre of player, but it's going to be a journey. That is if you look only within the Prem. A midtable club in England can sometimes buy a Champions League player from France or Germany, sometimes from Italy or Spain as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 A midfielder who will receive the ball and play it forward into our creative players? We're crying out for people of that ilk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, VillaParkAvenue said: A midtable club in England can sometimes buy a Champions League player from France And stick them on the bench 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: And stick them on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: That is if you look only within the Prem. A midtable club in England can sometimes buy a Champions League player from France or Germany, sometimes from Italy or Spain as well. Fair point, but "Champions League" quality means different things in different leagues. Wesley played in the Champions League, as did Sanson, Bailey, etc. I don't think that means they'd be of interest to a top 4 Premier League side. I'm talking about the sorts of players who feature regularly in the knockout stages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Fair point, but "Champions League" quality means different things in different leagues. Wesley played in the Champions League, as did Sanson, Bailey, etc. I don't think that means they'd be of interest to a top 4 Premier League side. I'm talking about the sorts of players who feature regularly in the knockout stages. I’m not saying we should buy more squad players from Brugge. But good players from clubs like Lille, Lyon, Marseilles, Dortmund, Leipzig, Sevilla, Napoli etc. With a little luck you can even sign standout players from those clubs, like Newcastle did with Bruno Guimaraes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2022 and we're still taking the opinions of selected groups of other sides fans as gospel on players. WHEN WILL IT END ROBBIE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 He would be a good signing. Leeds have really missed him this season. Buying English players are more expensive but if he stays fit then hes a nailed on improvement to what we have and we could spend 30/40 million on a player from the German or French league and they end just being squad players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 So now I’m reading this would be and as we could sign two or three other random promising players. And yet everyone was clamouring to just spend big money on 2-3 proven players, which Phillips quite clearly is. I really despair at Villa fans sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 21, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Spoony said: So now I’m reading this would be and as we could sign two or three other random promising players. I...erm....maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, Spoony said: So now I’m reading this would be and as we could sign two or three other random promising players. And yet everyone was clamouring to just spend big money on 2-3 proven players, which Phillips quite clearly is. I really despair at Villa fans sometimes. Is he really proven though? He has spent a majority of this season injured and players can decline from a good first top flight season look at Ollie. Jacob Ramsey has actually played more Premier League games than Phillips 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I...erm....maybe? Sorry that was bad written England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 £60m for Kalvin Phillips would be absolutely ridiculous. I can't even say I've been that blown away by him when I've seen him play to be honest. He's a good player but no-where near worth paying that much for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 hours ago, John said: Three consecutive sixth-place PL finishes...bring it on! ... followed by 10 years of despair, a relegation and near insolvency. Lavish spending is not the way to success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Why would he choose Villa over a CL team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, maqroll said: Why would he choose Villa over a CL team? because none of them want him. It will probably be us and Newcastle chasing him this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: because none of them want him. It will probably be us and Newcastle chasing him this summer Man Utd, Arse and Spurs would all have interest and European CL sides too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, maqroll said: Man Utd, Arse and Spurs would all have interest and European CL sides too. no they wont. He wont be on the radar of any European team and the 3 mentioned can get better value elsewhere. Spurs for example signed Bentancur for a third of the cost and he is superior on the ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, maqroll said: Man Utd, Arse and Spurs would all have interest and European CL sides too. Man U have been interested in Phillps before, but they’ve appeared equally interested in McGinn… Don’t think Arsenal or Spurs would pay 60m for Phillips, it wouldn’t fit their transfer policies to pay that much for a 26-year-old and their fans would likely riot. For perspective, 60m would make Phillips Spurs’ record signing, and a salary of 10m per year would be almost exactly what they pay Harry Kane. Edited March 21, 2022 by VillaParkAvenue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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