sidcow Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: You know what, I can’t even describe. artsy, a little pretentious. Hard to quantify but I know it when i see it Or don't see it in fact 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 14, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, useless said: The Tragedy of Macbeth I watched the first twenty or so minutes of and I pretty much liked everything about it but realized I was only understanding half of the dialogue, so am now reading the play with a guide explaining some of the terminology and so on, so I can go back to the film and understand it better. I wouldn’t normally recommend subtitles but it really helps with Macbeth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 When I watch a Shakespeare adaptation, if I don’t already know the story, I have both the subtitles on and also my phone already on plot synopsis page on Wikipedia. So if I’m not following what’s been said I have a quick glance at the relevant part of the synopsis and take from it the general gist. I occasionally will do it even if I’m more familiar with the plot, but I want to fully understand a particular motive or something. I think I’d only go and see a Shakespeare play live if I knew it well (Horatio), so subtitles and a synopsis aren’t desperately needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, useless said: Of the previous 93 best picture winners these are the ones I've seen Parasite, 12 Years a Slave, Crash, A Beautiful Mind, American Beauty, Forrest Gump, Schindler's List, The Silence of the Lambs, Rain Man, Rocky, The Sound of Music, The Apartment, All About Eve, Rebecca. So not as many as i thought and of those I'd only call Parasite, The Apartment, The Sound of Music, and All About Eve favorites, I love Alfred Hitchock and liked Rebecca but not as much as some of his others. I've seen: All Quiet on the Western Front It Happened One Night Gone With the Wind Rebecca Mrs Miniver Casablanca The Lost Weekend The Best Years of Our Lives Hamlet An American in Paris The Greatest Show on Earth From Here to Eternity On the Waterfront The Bridge on the River Kwai Ben-Hur The Apartment Lawence of Arabia Tom Jones The Sound of Music A Man for All Seasons In the Heat of the Night Midnight Cowboy Patton The French Connection The Godfather The Sting The Godfather Part II One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Annie Hall The Deer Hunter Chariots of Fire Gandhi Amadeus Out of Africa Platoon The Last Emperor Rain Man Driving Miss Daisy Dances With Wolves The Silence of the Lambs Unforgiven Schindler's List Forrest Gump Braveheart The English Patient Titanic Shakespeare in Love American Beauty Gladiator A Beautiful Mind The Return of the King Crash No Country for Old Men Slumdog Millionaire The Hurt Locker The King's Speech The Artist Twelve Years a Slave The Shape of Water Parasite Nomadland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just counted, I think I’ve seen 45 of the best winners. Not so many of those are from pre 1940, not the winners anyway. I heard an interesting idea suggested on a podcast that awards, like the Oscars should be delayed for a few years, let time pass and the dust settle, then have retrospective look at that year and decide what was the best, or most culturally significant films that deserve some sort of recognition. It’s all daft ultimately. I’ve just noticed that “The Third Man” wasn’t even nominated for best picture in 1950, **** me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: I’ve just noticed that “The Third Man” wasn’t even nominated for best picture in 1950. Indeed. When I was compiling my list (above), I was struck by how often I preferred many of the losing nominees to the actual winners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, mjmooney said: I've seen: All Quiet on the Western Front It Happened One Night Gone With the Wind Rebecca Mrs Miniver Casablanca The Lost Weekend The Best Years of Our Lives Hamlet An American in Paris The Greatest Show on Earth From Here to Eternity On the Waterfront The Bridge on the River Kwai Ben-Hur The Apartment Lawence of Arabia Tom Jones The Sound of Music A Man for All Seasons In the Heat of the Night Midnight Cowboy Patton The French Connection The Godfather The Sting The Godfather Part II One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Annie Hall The Deer Hunter Chariots of Fire Gandhi Amadeus Out of Africa Platoon The Last Emperor Rain Man Driving Miss Daisy Dances With Wolves The Silence of the Lambs Unforgiven Schindler's List Forrest Gump Braveheart The English Patient Titanic Shakespeare in Love American Beauty Gladiator A Beautiful Mind The Return of the King Crash No Country for Old Men Slumdog Millionaire The Hurt Locker The King's Speech The Artist Twelve Years a Slave The Shape of Water Parasite Nomadland Going through the best foreign film and all the nominees is the way forward, some incredible films out there. edit.. I notice it's not on your list but do people remember the furore when ordinary people beat out both raging bull and the elephant man. Edited February 15, 2022 by Phil Silvers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil Silvers said: I notice it's not on your list but do people remember the furore when ordinary people beat out both raging bull and the elephant man. Couldn't remember whether I'd seen Ordinary People or not. Which probably says it all. Then again, I've never seen Raging Bull, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Couldn't remember whether I'd seen Ordinary People or not. Which probably says it all. Then again, I've never seen Raging Bull, either. You can't take it with you. How green was my valley. All about Eve. Three absolute crackers not on your list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 It lost all credibility when Ellen Burstyn lost out to Julia fecking Roberts in 2000. I have a real aversion to award ceremonies anyway tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 15, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Designer1 said: It lost all credibility when Ellen Burstyn lost out to Julia fecking Roberts in 2000. I have a real aversion to award ceremonies anyway tbh. It's certainly flawed. I usually use the oscars as a way to prompt me to watch some movies I may not have watched otherwise. tick tick... Boom is a good example. There's no way I'd have watched that movie if it wasn't for the oscar chat around it. But I did and it was brilliant. I don't really care who actually wins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Designer1 said: It lost all credibility when Ellen Burstyn lost out to Julia fecking Roberts in 2000. I have a real aversion to award ceremonies anyway tbh. genuine question , but has there ever been a time when the Oscars weren't corrupt ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: genuine question , but has there ever been a time when the Oscars weren't corrupt ? I doubt it Tone. I would imagine there's always been an element of collusion. It's one of the reasons I have no time for it (and awards ceremonies in general). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 They can be both nonsense and also provide some good films, going to the cinema in the dec-feb window, always see some decent films. Obviously it's all political and full of lobbying and all the actors and people who vote admit they only see the films that are lobbied hard enough ( in mitigation, watching every film is practically implausible really ), but more often than not I think decent films and actors do get rewarded more frequently than garbage. There are always notably hilarious exceptions. But also there are so many awards these days, from film festivals locally to others elsewhere, it would be rare for a genuinely good film to never receive recognition from somewhere. Getting worked up about who wins or loses is pointless, though it won't stop me being annoyed when Power of the Dog wins a bunch this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) On 14/02/2022 at 21:00, useless said: Of the previous 93 best picture winners these are the ones I've seen... Parasite, 12 Years a Slave, Crash, A Beautiful Mind, American Beauty, Forrest Gump, Schindler's List, The Silence of the Lambs, Rain Man, Rocky, The Sound of Music, The Apartment, All About Eve, Rebecca. Of the best international films these are the ones I've seen... Forbidden Games, Mon Oncle, Through a Glass Darkly, 8½, Closely Watched Trains, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Fanny and Alexander, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, The Great Beauty, Ida, Parasite... Between those and 'the best picture' films I've seen, Parasite was the only I watched knowing it had won an oscar. Edited February 15, 2022 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I hope this years winner is better than Nomadland. I found that film to be incredibly boring. I can normally appreciate slow l buildup as long as it eventually goes somewhere. Nothing happened at all, literally nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 heh, after disparaging Power of the Dog, I must say I really enjoyed Nomadland I got really drawn in. Definitely have to be in the mood for it though I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 28, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted March 28, 2022 Will Smith has stolen the show, and not for his Best Actor win! In actual film news, CODA winning was a huge surprise for me. It's a good film but not sure I'd even put it in my top 3 of the films that were nominated. Dune won the most, but none of the big ones. Well deserved Best Director for Jane Campion Best supporting actress Ariana DeBose (West Side Story) – WINNER! Best costume design Cruella – WINNER! Best sound Dune – WINNER! Best original score Dune – WINNER! Best adapted screenplay Coda (Sian Heder) – WINNER! Best original screenplay Belfast (Kenneth Branagh) – WINNER! Best animated short The Windshield Wiper – WINNER! Best live action short The Long Goodbye – WINNER! Best supporting actor Troy Kotsur (Coda) – WINNER! Best film editing Dune – WINNER! Best makeup & hairstyling The Eyes of Tammy Faye – WINNER! Best animated feature Encanto – WINNER! Best documentary feature Summer of Soul – WINNER! Best documentary short The Queen of Basketball – WINNER! Best original song No Time to Die (No Time to Die) – WINNER! Best cinematography Dune – WINNER! Best international feature Drive My Car – WINNER! Best production design Dune – WINNER! Best visual effects Dune – WINNER! Best actress Jessica Chastain (The Eyes of Tammy Faye) – WINNER! Best actor Will Smith (King Richard) – WINNER! Best director Jane Campion (The Power of the Dog) – WINNER! Best picture Coda – WINNER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: In actual film news This reminds me of @BOF trying to ignore the ending of last seasons F1 season when it’s all people want to talk about 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 What was Will Smith's acceptance speech like? Did he mention the slap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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