VillaJay Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 38 minutes ago, Feidhlim said: That's fine, my point is it's v difficult to say what's fair for a player with potential Vs a player in his prime. Kellyman has absolute bags of potential. In 2 years we might be thinking we got robbed here It happens, we need money now and 20m gives us flexibility in the market. City sold Frimpong for 1m... But they've also so loads of young talent for big fees who have since disappeared. We're also buying young players with big potential ourselves, Maatsen, Enzo and Illing-Junior are all early 20s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 43 minutes ago, Feidhlim said: That's fine, my point is it's v difficult to say what's fair for a player with potential Vs a player in his prime. Kellyman has absolute bags of potential. In 2 years we might be thinking we got robbed here Fair point. It could go other way and he doesnt even make a appearance for them ans that potential goes down hill. I dont think he would get much game time esp with illing junior coming in Think 19-20m is a fantastic deal for us. We could always insert a buy back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 22 Popular Post Share Posted June 22 This is exactly the type of sale that the “elite” clubs have been making for years. Selling youth players for huge profit to enable them to keep improving the first team for the here and now. I love it! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: This is exactly the type of sale that the “elite” clubs have been making for years. Selling youth players for huge profit to enable them to keep improving the first team for the here and now. I love it! Exactly this, will be expecting a marquee signing in July now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Oh and so in essence it’s Kellyman and £15mil for Maatsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) Monchi is doing the business with these deals, 20mil for someone who probably wouldn’t even make the bench this season with the players coming back from injury and new players coming in Edited June 22 by rbcuk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 If this goes through we good for PSR? Especially with Luiz? We then in a strong place to go big in July? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 I don't get the anger. I'm slight disappointed to lose potential but this is the kind of deal big clubs have been doing for years. I'm glad we are acting like one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioVilla Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 If I recall correctly, selling a homegrown like Omari can be considered pure profit in FFP, yes? If that's true, then he and Tim are a magnificent deal. Wonder if we can sneak another Archer deal across the line in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 58 minutes ago, villa4europe said: it's Chelsea who have set the market, £20m for chuk, £16m for deivid, £15m for angelo, £15m for casadei, £12m for andrey and that's before you look at the hundreds of millions they spend on semi established young prospects The £20m for him isn't outlandish compared to who else they've bought Yeah but that’s exactly my point. We’d be insane not to trade Kellyman + £17.5m for Maatsen, given the level they’ve both played at so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 9 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: This is exactly the type of sale that the “elite” clubs have been making for years. Selling youth players for huge profit to enable them to keep improving the first team for the here and now. I love it! Not really. They're selling players that have sort of leveled out and won't make it. Kellyman is an 18 year old that is the talk of every scout within Europe I bet. I get it. I really do. But it's shit. PSR is shit. 18 year olds being ferried about for psr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, rodders0223 said: Not really. They're selling players that have sort of leveled out and won't make it. Kellyman is an 18 year old that is the talk of every scout within Europe I bet. I get it. I really do. But it's shit. PSR is shit. 18 year olds being ferried about for psr Yes really, there are loads of examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Yes really, there are loads of examples. Hit me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Hit me Can I later? My Mrs wants to go shopping in Solihull now and I’m already annoyed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Whilst getting 9m for Tim and 20m for Omar is amazing business i still think both these players will be considered a pittance for whay they can do in the future. If Tim comes a regular PL midfielder which he will 9m is nothing and Omar is literally one of the best talents in Europe. Again 20m is amazing and we're having to do what we have to do for PSR, I'm not blaming the club or the staff but anyone that thinks it amazing we are selling kids for quick bucks is deluding themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 5 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Hit me Cole Palmer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 22 Moderator Share Posted June 22 I don't think this is a purely PSR decision. It's an opportunity that works for us - if Kellyman was going somewhere he'd play, then it's be a good deal for everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Cole Palmer... He was 21 and wasn't going to make it at City. And probably already worth near double what City sold him for - edit. Edited June 22 by rodders0223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I don't think this is a purely PSR decision. It's an opportunity that works for us - if Kellyman was going somewhere he'd play, then it's be a good deal for everyone. I think it is in that Chelsea wouldn't be bidding for him at all if it wasn't part of some pre-agreed trade off to help both clubs with PSR before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, rodders0223 said: He was 21 and wasn't going to make it at City. There's a sad truth that seemingly hardly anyone is going to make it here As for youth players being sold at a premium which gave clubs a massive shot in the arm Liverpool would probably be the best example when they flogged Webster, that keeper to Leicester, Ibe, solanke etc they've been very good at selling academy players We're not quite there yet where we're knowing that the likes of chuk and kellyman definitely wouldnt make it but that's where we're seemingly heading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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