useless Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Also Gallagher really isn't that bad on the ball at all, not sure where this idea has come from that he isn't technically very good, he might not be a Xavi type, but he's more than decent enough, much better than McGinn in that regard for example. I think because he's an hardworking type with good workrate maybe that overshadows how good he is on the ball for some people, and hardworking types with good workrates tend to be midfielders that are like that to compensate for lack of natural ability, but having seen Gallagher for Swansea, West Brom, and Crystal Palace, that's really not the case with him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted September 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, turvontour said: Question for everyone. Who was the last player we signed who was or is better than all our other players? This is the thing, we've stagnated. Likes of Newcastle, west ham, Palace overtaking us. Tough one as for a long time our best player was home grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 50m for Gallagher? Would take that much to get him away from Chelsea. Edited September 1, 2022 by Tayls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, useless said: Also Gallagher really isn't that bad on the ball at all... much better than McGinn in that regard for example. Is he? Passing completion at various ranges is similar. xA, key passes, SCA (passes) all a similar range (McGinn marginally higher if anything). McGinn miscontrols and dispossed less for a similar number of touches. Main positives for Gallagher seem to be higher workrate (eg. higher pressing figures) and shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Tayls said: 50m for Gallagher? Would take that much to get him away from Chelsea. they'll sell for 25-35m depending on who you ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, turvontour said: Question for everyone. Who was the last player we signed who was or is better than all our other players? This is the thing, we've stagnated. Likes of Newcastle, west ham, Palace overtaking us. Having a homegrown world class player for a while possibly skews this somewhat. But could argue Buendia, perhaps Coutinho on raw talent although the glimpses that the player of old is still there under the rust have all but stopped now. If looking at their respective position, you could argue Carlos comes in as our best CB and Kamara our best midfielder - with the potential to be our best player in general. I think our recruitment has largely been fine, our overall squad is much stronger than 2 years ago. There’s some areas than need strengthening and balancing work no doubt. You mention Palace as one of the sides leaving us behind, performance-wise sure but that’s not hard under current management, whens the last time they bought a player better than Zaha? We have a much stronger squad and 11 on paper, the difference for me is a manager that has them functioning like a team with a clear gameplan where they all know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: they'll sell for 25-35m depending on who you ask They rejected £27m the other day, £35m minimum imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: Is he? Passing completion at various ranges is similar. xA, key passes, SCA (passes) all a similar range (McGinn marginally higher if anything). McGinn miscontrols and dispossed less for a similar number of touches. Main positives for Gallagher seem to be higher workrate (eg. higher pressing figures) and shooting. Don't forget Gallagher has the potential to attract young girls to VP now that Jack is gone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 This won't happen, but:- Gallagher - 10m + Luiz Dendonker £13m Bednerek - Loan with option Sarr £25m 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, HalfTimePost said: He's eager to play alongside his fellow countryman, Matty Cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, nnock1984 said: This won't happen, but:- Gallagher - 10m + Luiz Dendonker £13m Bednerek - Loan with option Sarr £25m Poch (Coach) Corrected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Doesn't seem to be much of a strategy to what we are doing. Bit like opportunistic scavengers picking up the weak and unwanted from the clubs around us. A old lion with no teeth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) None of this matters until we have a manager that: a. has an idea about how to set the team up b. can coach players effectively to attack and defend as a unit c. can improve the players we already have, and has an idea how to use them consistently so an understanding develops on the pitch d. can prepare tactically for opponents, exploiting their weaknesses and covering their strengths e. can avoid pissing off large chunks of the squad. Edited September 1, 2022 by StanBalaban 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Villa now linked with Gerson from Marseille according to SSN. Plays centre mid or left mid. Scored 9 and assisted 7 from 35 games last season. 25 year old Brazilian. Lazy journalism on D-Day or possible to make it happen to pair up with old teammate Kamara? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 hours ago, PieFacE said: If we really are back in for Sarr then there's something seriously wrong with the management of this football club. What a mess If and it's a big if, perhaps Sarr hasn't been bowled over by the weight of offers he had anticipated and has dropped his wage demands for joining us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) It does seem very strange that one minute we're about to drop £25m on a winger then suddenly, nothing. Edited September 1, 2022 by Chindie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, sne said: Doesn't seem to be much of a strategy to what we are doing. Bit like opportunistic scavengers picking up the weak and unwanted from the clubs around us. A old lion with no teeth. When you’re in the relegation places and Premier League survival is critical (unlike say a Norwich or Fulham), strategy goes out the window. We’d be in a much different place if we were mid-table right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, turvontour said: Question for everyone. Who was the last player we signed who was or is better than all our other players? This is the thing, we've stagnated. Likes of Newcastle, west ham, Palace overtaking us. We started off behind these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stewiek2 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, sne said: A old lion with no teeth. That's the new crest sorted 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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