brummybloke Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 hours ago, MotoMkali said: Tldr we will offer 17 million for Vitor nelsson In the olden days we would have been able to swap players, so traore for Nelsson would probably have suited both clubs. Maybe we can resurrect that old way of doing things ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Marseille must love us. I think they are looking to recoup some money in transfer fees, as they have apparently spent quite big this summer according to Transfermarkt.co.uk . So they might be happier to take our money this time around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 hours ago, duke313 said: Or he's been told the "war chest" is empty? 5 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said: This is what the most recent signing said: ”The manager was one of the big reasons. He played at the highest level, won many things and was a midfielder, too. It means a lot to have interest from him and I think he can teach me many things.” (Onana about signing for Everton) I was baiting someone into a KW gif, but alas I failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, brummybloke said: In the olden days we would have been able to swap players, so traore for Nelsson would probably have suited both clubs. Maybe we can resurrect that old way of doing things ? Good old swaps don't work too well for FFP. If we offload Traore we need to assign a value to the sale of Traore and we would want that as high as possible to make our accounts look good. Equally, if the club that sign Traore would want his value as low as possible as that determines their annual amortisation cost. It is much easier to just treat them as separate sales from an accounting perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Good old swaps don't work too well for FFP. If we offload Traore we need to assign a value to the sale of Traore and we would want that as high as possible to make our accounts look good. Equally, if the club that sign Traore would want his value as low as possible as that determines their annual amortisation cost. It is much easier to just treat them as separate sales from an accounting perspective If it's a swap, you would surely just assign the same value to the new player that was left on the books for the old one (with an adjustment for any salary differential)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Completely BS but how I wish it was true that we were after a top forward. Obviously more judgment could be made if we knew who it was but this is 99.9% BS rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Im surprised no one has gone in for Belotti, scored for fun at Torino, a decent box striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Adman said: If it's a swap, you would surely just assign the same value to the new player that was left on the books for the old one (with an adjustment for any salary differential)? Let's we were swapping Matty Cash, we probably have about 7m left on our books for Matty, if we are going to use him in a direct swap we would want a player of equal value e.g. 40m. If we brought in a player of 40m value and accounted for him at 7m (Matty's book value), the inland revenue would have an issue (we would not be declaring profit) and so too would FFP as we would be buying a player for 40m but only saying to FFP that he was 7m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, sne said: Get Simon Dawkins and Tiago Illori as well while we are at it Phwoar!!!!! I love it when someone talks dirty on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, nick76 said: Completely BS but how I wish it was true that we were after a top forward. Obviously more judgment could be made if we knew who it was but this is 99.9% BS rumour. You do realise Roma is in Italy and not Spain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 56 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: " Welcome back to the club Ross Barkley " - Agent Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Rustibrooks said: Fekir? RDT? 13 minutes ago, nick76 said: Completely BS but how I wish it was true that we were after a top forward. Obviously more judgment could be made if we knew who it was but this is 99.9% BS rumour. @nick76 your tweet is so 12:52 pm darling, back when everything was buckets for toilets , 4 tv channels, jumpers for goalposts…. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 54 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Bayern are letting him go because he's a dick but I think he's about as good a loan CB as will be available Nagelsmann doesnt rate him but Salihamidzic really does. It's why they aren't selling him They had a fall out over this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Good old swaps don't work too well for FFP. If we offload Traore we need to assign a value to the sale of Traore and we would want that as high as possible to make our accounts look good. Equally, if the club that sign Traore would want his value as low as possible as that determines their annual amortisation cost. It is much easier to just treat them as separate sales from an accounting perspective They work brilliantly if your Juventus and Barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, birdistheword said: Traore, Nakamba, El Ghazi, Sanson, Guilbert, Hause can’t even make the squad with 9 subs. Depth isn’t an issue in the slightest, first team quality is. Premier League wages are handcuffing us from shifting these players... The only clubs which can offer these players a similar salary or a raise are other Prem clubs and a handful of other top top clubs around Europe (PSG, Bayern, Barca, the Madrid clubs, & maybe a few in Italy). If someone isn't good enough for us, chances are the ~10 clubs below us which can afford him will deem he isn't good enough for them either. Rarely, you'll have a Targett situation, but none of those players are good enough to be regular starters in a Premier League team not battling relegation. This is why we're taking huge losses and or doing loans with options to buy. Going forward, we need to buy smart and only buy players who will rise in value or buy veterans knowing full well we won't be able to sell for much if it doesn't work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: You do realise Roma is in Italy and not Spain Wondered what the hell you were on about at first, then I got it! Been a long day, don’t mind me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, rbcuk said: Im surprised no one has gone in for Belotti, scored for fun at Torino, a decent box striker He has been poor last 3 seasons or so. Scores a lot of penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: @nick76 your tweet is so 12:52 pm darling, back when everything was buckets for toilets , 4 tv channels, jumpers for goalposts…. Oh damn! Me… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nagelsmann doesnt rate him but Salihamidzic really does. It's why they aren't selling him They had a fall out over this Saw in one of the german papers Nagelsmann thinks he's got a bit of "made it" in him and coasts through games and training resulting in sloppy mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, nick76 said: Completely BS but how I wish it was true that we were after a top forward. Obviously more judgment could be made if we knew who it was but this is 99.9% BS rumour. Out of interest, who would you be considering a “top forward” outside of the obvious Roma player you like? Genuinely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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