sne Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, CalVilla88 said: 25% of the time we win every time. Should have gone with Sex Panther instead . Edited August 9, 2022 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 A few reasons to be concerned with our transfer policy: Low net spend the last 2 summers Not investing in key positions to strengthen (e.g. CM) Buying predominantly players in their late 20s since Gerrard came in (same thing happened under MON) Failing to offload unwanted players (Trezeguet and Targett aside) I've praised the owners a lot but if they are going down the road of turning off the taps that will not be good for the club and reminds me a bit of the Lerner years. You'd think they haven't lost interest given the plans to increase Villa Park but if seasons tickets are going to sell out every summer at our new 50K+ ground then significant improvement will be needed on the pitch I'd have thought. Continuous investment is needed every year in this league just to stand still let alone progress to the positions we are aspiring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 There is a problem in our club somewhere we keep signing players and high profile players yet we cannot get the best out of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, ozvilla28 said: There is a problem in our club somewhere we keep signing players and high profile players yet we cannot get the best out of them. Losing mentality Garbage coaching Inexperienced managers Constant churn or staff and players Either that or that's all complete shit and everyone we sign is actually crap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ozvilla28 said: There is a problem in our club somewhere we keep signing players and high profile players yet we cannot get the best out of them. Yep. I've said it before, we've gone through countless managers, coaches, DOFs, CEOs over the years. We were shit at set pieces so brought in a set piece coach. We weren't data-driven in our training so we brought in data analysts. We were mentality fragile so we brought in sports psychologists. None of it seems to matter. We're still shit at football, still shit at the specific things that we brought in qualified specialized coaches and personnel to tackle. It's baffling how deeply-ingrained failure is in Aston Villa Football Club. Edited August 9, 2022 by est1874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: Yep. I've said it before, we've gone through countless managers, coaches, DOFs, CEOs over the years. We were shit at set piece coaches so brought in a set piece coach. We weren't data-driven in our training so we brought in data analysts. We were mentality fragile so we brought in sports psychologists. None of it seems to matter. We're still shit at football, still shit at the specific things that we brought in qualified specialized coaches and personnel to tackle. It's baffling how deeply-ingrained failure is in Aston Villa Football Club. *Cries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I'm sort of here too, I've thought it for a while now... Every now and again we think there is a fleeting chance of some success or progress. We've been s*** since Brian Little in 1996...it is ingrained with Aston Villa. Other teams and supporters laugh at us and many of us are now realising it. The top six are miles away and Villa cannot even beat the relegation favourites. Whilst we stagnate or regress others around us and above us strengthen making it even harder to bridge the gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: Yep. I've said it before, we've gone through countless managers, coaches, DOFs, CEOs over the years. We were shit at set piece coaches so brought in a set piece coach. We weren't data-driven in our training so we brought in data analysts. We were mentality fragile so we brought in sports psychologists. None of it seems to matter. We're still shit at football, still shit at the specific things that we brought in qualified specialized coaches and personnel to tackle. It's baffling how deeply-ingrained failure is in Aston Villa Football Club. The club has up and downs like any other. Fans were happy in the MON and Smith eras as we had relative success. It might seem like doom and gloom now, but success will come again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 It looks like we were spending the Grealish money last summer after all… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, VillaFaninLondon said: A few reasons to be concerned with our transfer policy: Low net spend the last 2 summers Not investing in key positions to strengthen (e.g. CM) Buying predominantly players in their late 20s since Gerrard came in (same thing happened under MON) Failing to offload unwanted players (Trezeguet and Targett aside) I've praised the owners a lot but if they are going down the road of turning off the taps that will not be good for the club and reminds me a bit of the Lerner years. You'd think they haven't lost interest given the plans to increase Villa Park but if seasons tickets are going to sell out every summer at our new 50K+ ground then significant improvement will be needed on the pitch I'd have thought. Continuous investment is needed every year in this league just to stand still let alone progress to the positions we are aspiring to. I think this is vastly unfair. We moved quickly to sign one of the most highly rated young players in his position (Kamara), a successful European regular CB (Carlos), a good value experienced AM (Coutinho), as well as solid, inexpensive back ups (Olsen and Augustinsson). That follows one of the league's best left backs in January (Digne) and a smart free transfer (Chambers). There is no issue with the recruitment, it's what we are doing with them. I'd love to see another top level CM too, and indeed a striker, but we can't do everything in one summer, especially when we have such a big squad already. This is as far as you can get from the Lerner years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Lion Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Beginning to realise why previous managers and other fans call Villa fans fickle.We really do have a large percentage of entitled fans 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Condimentalist said: I think this is vastly unfair. We moved quickly to sign one of the most highly rated young players in his position (Kamara), a successful European regular CB (Carlos), a good value experienced AM (Coutinho), as well as solid, inexpensive back ups (Olsen and Augustinsson). That follows one of the league's best left backs in January (Digne) and a smart free transfer (Chambers). There is no issue with the recruitment, it's what we are doing with them. I'd love to see another top level CM too, and indeed a striker, but we can't do everything in one summer, especially when we have such a big squad already. This is as far as you can get from the Lerner years. You was doing well until Digne, I’m still to be convinced he’s an upgrade on Targett. Atm I would say he isn’t. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, WHY said: It looks like we were spending the Grealish money last summer after all… What money did we spend the summer before? Lol The Jedinak or Adomah money? The Kodjia money? Come on man... Our owners have been brilliant. Can't throw our toys out the pram just because we don't always get what we want WHEN we want it. Edit: What are people going to do if/when a time comes where due to redevelopment and expansion we have to massively scale back on transfers like Arsenal and Tottenham had to, temporarily for the greater good? Edited August 9, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 We signed Lioness Rachel Daly today, no one saw that coming. What you expect is what you don't get, with Sawiris and Edens on the case no one knows what comes next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ozvilla28 said: There is a problem in our club somewhere we keep signing players and high profile players yet we cannot get the best out of them. This is simple its called " Managers favourites" it's a pathetic way of management and the club should tell these managers with egos you need to manage not blow all the cash and then demand more when it don't work. Edited August 9, 2022 by villan501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Galway Lion said: Beginning to realise why previous managers and other fans call Villa fans fickle.We really do have a large percentage of entitled fans The reason why us fans you included gets frustrated is because Managers have utterly pathetic criteria for selection, it's like the saying when you try enter a party " your name is not on the list so your not coming in" Smith had favourites and so does Gerrard, its about time these favourites were dropped like everyone else seems too. Edited August 9, 2022 by villan501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Galway Lion said: Beginning to realise why previous managers and other fans call Villa fans fickle.We really do have a large percentage of entitled fans It’s not just Villa who have a large percentage of entitled fans…… Leeds Man Utd Arsenal I could go on……..you can talk to Baggie’s fans who think their club is well known for an attacking brand of football based on a couple of seasons in the late 70s Or West Ham fans who think that they should only see a certain brand of pure passing football when their team plays. All fans think they deserve a good team with a good style of play……it’s normal for a fan to think like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, WHY said: You was doing well until Digne, I’m still to be convinced he’s an upgrade on Targett. Atm I would say he isn’t. I think he's a major upgrade on Targett - especially going forward where it is light and day. He's not as consistent as he might be but is comfortably good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: What money did we spend the summer before? Lol The Jedinak or Adomah money? The Kodjia money? Come on man... Our owners have been brilliant. Can't throw our toys out the pram just because we don't always get what we want WHEN we want it. Edit: What are people going to do if/when a time comes where due to redevelopment and expansion we have to massively scale back on transfers like Arsenal and Tottenham had to, temporarily for the greater good? Not knocking the owners mate but you can’t expect to get European football without improving the first 11. The squad is decent but the first 11 isn’t that much better than it was 2 seasons ago, if at all. Don’t forget the owners got the club for a ridiculous price and will get all their investment back and some more if they were to sell now. They have been great but we have also been good for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Condimentalist said: I think he's a major upgrade on Targett - especially going forward where it is light and day. He's not as consistent as he might be but is comfortably good enough for us. Football is all about opinions mate but you’re watching a different player to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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