VillaFaninLondon Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, HalfTimePost said: And then the next few we're going back a long time and then suddenly we're at Watkins. Buying a striker is bloody tough. Berbatov £34 (Utd) - Hit Torres £34m (Liverpool) - Hit Dzeko £33m (City) - Hit Rooney £33m (Utd) - Hit Scamacca £32m (West Ham) - TBC Lukaku £32m (Chelsea) - Miss? Watkins £30m (Aston Villa) - Alleged Miss. I'm not having it. I think he's been a very good buy for us. He's not going to win us the league and probably not get us to Top 6. Inthe comparisons to signings 17-15 years ago here. Yea not great value. But to the ones happening now, he's been more of a hit than a miss and decent value. If we were to sell I reckon we’d get back roughly what we paid for him. I’d say he’s not a hit or a miss, for where we were at the time he’s been a decent signing (although we definitely overpaid) but for where we want to get to he isn’t good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) I see PSG have made all these surplus to requirements Thilo Kehrer, Georginio Wijnaldum, Ander Herrera, Idrissa Gueye, Layvin Kurzawa, Abdou Diallo, Leandro Paredes, Danilo Pereira, Junior Dina Ebimbe, Julian Draxler and Mauro Icardi I’d def take Kehrer as he can play centre back and in midfield and probably Icardi as he’s a lot better than what we currently up front Edited July 31, 2022 by rbcuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I’m glad we aren’t naive to be dragged into prolonged transfer deals we aren’t realistically going to pull off. Newcastle got lucky with Botman, given Milan’s pulling out. And their pursuit of a striker again shows their shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, rbcuk said: I see PSG have made all these surplus to requirements Thilo Kehrer, Georginio Wijnaldum, Ander Herrera, Idrissa Gueye, Layvin Kurzawa, Abdou Diallo, Leandro Paredes, Danilo Pereira, Junior Dina Ebimbe, Julian Draxler and Mauro Icardi I’d def take Kehrer as he can play centre back and in midfield and probably Icardi as he’s a lot better than what we currently up front That is some wage bill to be trying to offload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Peter Griffin said: That is some wage bill to be trying to offload Over a million a week easily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: That is some wage bill to be trying to offload Icardi is on at least £157k pw - I don’t see many clubs touching that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: Icardi is on at least £157k pw - I don’t see many clubs touching that I agree, I think we would be looking elsewhere than that type of profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, rbcuk said: I see PSG have made all these surplus to requirements Thilo Kehrer, Georginio Wijnaldum, Ander Herrera, Idrissa Gueye, Layvin Kurzawa, Abdou Diallo, Leandro Paredes, Danilo Pereira, Junior Dina Ebimbe, Julian Draxler and Mauro Icardi I’d def take Kehrer as he can play centre back and in midfield and probably Icardi as he’s a lot better than what we currently up front I'd take Icardi just for the Maxi Lopez banter with Small Heath. Whether he's an upgrade or not. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, HalfTimePost said: I'd take Icardi just for the Maxi Lopez banter with Small Heath. Whether he's an upgrade or not. Comment of the day. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Weirdly enough if we hadn't signed Danny ings last year I would be suggesting that the ideal striker for us to buy would be Danny ings. He was supposed to be the boy to stick away the chances we created to make up for Ollie's inconsistency in front of goal. Think we need a big season from him cos he hasn't been great up to now 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: Weirdly enough if we hadn't signed Danny ings last year I would be suggesting that the ideal striker for us to buy would be Danny ings. He was supposed to be the boy to stick away the chances we created to make up for Ollie's inconsistency in front of goal. Think we need a big season from him cos he hasn't been great up to now Indeed he was, he started well too.. trouble is we don't make a wealth of chances anymore. His and Ollie's misses both standout but we aren't making enough chances consistently. We either need to start massively creating more chances (I'd suggest playing Buendia more often for that), or we need to find more goals from other players (maybe Bailey and Ramsey can save the day here). Coutinho could be the answer to both in a 4231 with Bailey/Buendia either side of him. If he finds his form. He could also be the reason we don't use Bailey/Buendia if Gerrard persists with him in a 4321 and his form doesn't come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 34 minutes ago, rbcuk said: I see PSG have made all these surplus to requirements Thilo Kehrer, Georginio Wijnaldum, Ander Herrera, Idrissa Gueye, Layvin Kurzawa, Abdou Diallo, Leandro Paredes, Danilo Pereira, Junior Dina Ebimbe, Julian Draxler and Mauro Icardi I’d def take Kehrer as he can play centre back and in midfield and probably Icardi as he’s a lot better than what we currently up front Paredes would be a good signing to add to our shithouse team but is off to Juventus The reat no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: Weirdly enough if we hadn't signed Danny ings last year I would be suggesting that the ideal striker for us to buy would be Danny ings. He was supposed to be the boy to stick away the chances we created to make up for Ollie's inconsistency in front of goal. Think we need a big season from him cos he hasn't been great up to now A few weeks before we signed him the papers had him down as an ideal striker for a Champions League team. We are in for big things this year from Ings I hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, The_Steve said: A few weeks before we signed him the papers had him down as an ideal striker for a Champions League team. We are in for big things this year from Ings I hope. I hope you’re right and I think he’ll start more games than Ollie. If we add another striker it could be an inside forward who could play with or instead of Ings. Someone like Mo Salah. That could well see Ollie departing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 55 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: Weirdly enough if we hadn't signed Danny ings last year I would be suggesting that the ideal striker for us to buy would be Danny ings. He was supposed to be the boy to stick away the chances we created to make up for Ollie's inconsistency in front of goal …which suggests to me it may be a bit more complicated than the “our strikers miss too many chances” line that’s currently doing the rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Adam2003 said: …which suggests to me it may be a bit more complicated than the “our strikers miss too many chances” line that’s currently doing the rounds I dont even think they do. Watkins for his faults creates most of his chances himself. Ings I think had an XG of below 7 last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: I dont even think they do. Watkins for his faults creates most of his chances himself. Ings I think had an XG of below 7 last season Oh you’re absolutely correct, it’s just the current line being trotted out as if someone magical striker will arrive and fix everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: I dont even think they do. Watkins for his faults creates most of his chances himself. Ings I think had an XG of below 7 last season Per 90 last season Watkins: 0.37 xG Ings: 0.35 xG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I think an elite striker will be next summer's big priority and the scouting team will be focusing on it throughout the season. We may get another midfielder in if we can shift a few out but really I think that will be it - and if Doug starts the season well and signs a new deal then even that may not be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 7 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: Steer should be counted (unless we’re not planning on registering him in the squad). Scottish players don’t count as home grown. HG relates to England and Wales. That’s bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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