Zatman Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Indigo said: I like Traore but this is hugely believable. except the part he cocks things up on the pitch when he never gets any game time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Stu Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, KMitch said: He's in the 7th percentile for progressive passes... It means he's passing backward or sideways. Not what we need. Could that be down to how Brighton play though? They tend to be happy to keep the ball and pass sideways all game, with a manager with a more attack minded approach he may look to progress the ball more to the creative players further up the pitch. Either way, he improves our midfield Edited June 3, 2022 by Villa Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Bissouma has one of the highest passing accuracies out of all central midfielders this season. I'm fairly sure he can pass. If you read the Brighton forums they all say hes good at getting and keeping the ball and carrying it forward but he's not a progressive passer at all. He's very defensive, very much a 6, even more so than Kamara. Edited June 3, 2022 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Villa Stu said: Could that be down to how Brighton play though? They tend to be happy to keep the ball and pass sideways all game, with a manager with a more attack minded approach he may look to progress the ball more to the creative players further up the pitch Its less to do with the team and more to do with his role. Nakamba sports similar stats for the same reason. Surprisingly good although not exceptional passing accuracy but absolutely terrible progressive passing. Normally what happens is that the other midfield partner takes on the role of progresser. In Brighton's case that's Pascal Gross, who not coincidentally has one of the worst passing accuracy stats for his position, but very good progressive passing stats. That being said, I think both "passing" roles are important, they're just important in different ways. For a team like us who struggles to keep possession, perhaps we need a player who can maintain a very high passing accuracy more than we need a risky progressive passer. Edited June 3, 2022 by Laughable Chimp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted June 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2022 So us doing an Everton is the new uninformed view from other fan groups. Its replaced the equally stupid villa are doing a Fulham. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: So us doing an Everton is the new uninformed view from other fan groups. Its replaced the equally stupid villa are doing a Fulham. Going up in the world! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarryOnVilla Posted June 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: So us doing an Everton is the new uninformed view from other fan groups. Its replaced the equally stupid villa are doing a Fulham. Villa fans slating other teams Villa fans when other fans slate Villa 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mazrim Posted June 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, KMitch said: Bissouma doesn't make sense to me... We have ball winners in Kamara, Douglas Luiz, and Nakamba We have runners in McGinn, Ramsey, and Sanson We don't have a passer, which is what we need... McGinn played out of position there all season, and he did a serviceable job, but we really need someone else with a much better passing range in the starting trio. Dougie was played in that role a few times when Nakamba came back and still didn't look as good as McGinn did. Bissouma isn't a passer either... IMO, we need someone like JWP to play that role with McGinn/Ramsey competing for the more forward running/creative role. Calling McGinn a runner is like calling Peter Sutcliffe a hopeless romantic. 3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 What’s all this about Bissouma? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osirus Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Highly highly unlikely but i've just seen Roma are due to sell Zaniolo Could we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danny_Villaman84 Posted June 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2022 We should be focus on midfield, & New Forward, Left Back. These Type will better if we have these depth: Deep Playmaker + Passer + Long Shot, Occassion Play Channel - we should go someone like - Grillitsch or (prefer) Danilo Cataldi or any one else who have this ability P.S. We can use Luiz this roles which he is really very good Ball Winning (Protect back 4) + Passer - Kamara / Tim I. Runner "Carry Ball" (Channel) + Passer - Ramsey or McGinn Advanced (with Stay front) Playmaker - Coutinho & C.C. (or Arron Ramsey/Azaz) Advanced (with drop deep) Midfield + Playmaker - Buendia & C.C. New Striker - ??? Let look at this what Possible Critchley / Gerrard to do next seasonStart Games & Possession Style --------------------Martinez-------------- Cash-----Carlos---Mings---Digne -v-------------Kamara---------------V-- -------Ramsey---------Luiz----------- --------Buendia--V-Continho------ -------------------Watkins--------------- Or --------------------Martinez-------------- -----Carlos-----Kamara--Mings----- -Cash-----Ramsey----Luiz----Digne --V------Buendia-V--Continho----V- -------------------Watkins--------------- Regular; Ramsey or Occassion; Luiz go advanced area to attack or running into box use 1-2-1 Overlap Bomb forward with possession or direct attack Both Full back bomb (like we did score goal at Man City) --------------------Martinez------------------- ---------Carlos--Kamara---Mings-------- -----------Ramsey-----------Luiz--------- ---------Buendia-------------Coutinho----- Cash-------V------Watkins------V-------Digne-- Focus Left for example Possession (which Critchey did Blackpool) --------------------Martinez------------------- --------------Cash----Carlos-----Mings- --------Kamara----Luiz----------V------ ------------Ramsey---------Coutinho----- ----Buendia---V---Watkins---V--Digne------Carry Ball from Deep Drive by Runner By Ramsey + Playmaker --------------------Martinez-------------- Cash-----Carlos---Mings---Digne ----------Kamara-----Luiz------------- Buendia------Ramsey------Continho -------------------Watkins--------------- Digne or Cash will be running to far side to drag full back to out of position so 3 of Playmaker / Runner will 1-2-1 to space Counter-Attack from Deep from Defend Position --------------------Martinez-------------- V Cash-----Carlos---Mings---Digne V ------------------Kamara-------------- -----Buendia----Luiz-----Ramsey -----VV--------Coutinho-------VV--- -------------------Watkins--------------- Triangle passing between with Kamara and Luiz, Coutinho, with Mings and Carlos to support them to order opponent drag into trap or they try pressure on player to follow them or stop let us got ball/try win from us, or Counter Attack. push one of Dinge or Cash (Creep wide) or Ramsey (Wide), Buendia, (wide) Watkins (Draft into centre if he pull away from centre half) to space to running so Luiz or Kamara or Coutinho who can do long ball pin-point to them.Alter Strategy Bailey & JPB (or Winger Roles) or Ings (Come for extra man forward) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Most unsurprising news of the window so far. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted June 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2022 Do we know if Bissouma has been cleared from the Sussex-based criminal investigation? From Brighton & Hove News in April: Quote The Brighton and Hove Albion footballer Yves Bissouma and another man are still waiting to learn the outcome of a police investigation into claims of sexual assault. Obviously, it would be risky to sign someone without clarity on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, Osirus said: Highly highly unlikely but i've just seen Roma are due to sell Zaniolo Could we? Outstanding talent but two major cruciate injuries already. Plus loads of niggly ones the last few years. Not worse the risk for the cost IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Most unsurprising news of the window so far. yay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Most unsurprising news of the window so far. What happened to: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: What’s all this about Bissouma? Don't worry about it. He is not your kind of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, sidcow said: What happened to: We aren't a sexy enough club for that yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Its less to do with the team and more to do with his role. Nakamba sports similar stats for the same reason. Surprisingly good although not exceptional passing accuracy but absolutely terrible progressive passing. Normally what happens is that the other midfield partner takes on the role of progresser. In Brighton's case that's Pascal Gross, who not coincidentally has one of the worst passing accuracy stats for his position, but very good progressive passing stats. That being said, I think both "passing" roles are important, they're just important in different ways. For a team like us who struggles to keep possession, perhaps we need a player who can maintain a very high passing accuracy more than we need a risky progressive passer. It's also a lot to do with the fact that Nakamba is not a very good passer. You could not play the "passer" role and still not be in the bottom 7 percentile for progressive passes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Its less to do with the team and more to do with his role. Nakamba sports similar stats for the same reason. Surprisingly good although not exceptional passing accuracy but absolutely terrible progressive passing. Normally what happens is that the other midfield partner takes on the role of progresser. In Brighton's case that's Pascal Gross, who not coincidentally has one of the worst passing accuracy stats for his position, but very good progressive passing stats. That being said, I think both "passing" roles are important, they're just important in different ways. For a team like us who struggles to keep possession, perhaps we need a player who can maintain a very high passing accuracy more than we need a risky progressive passer. Villa tend to lose possession in the next phase, when Ramsey plays quick one touch passes with Buendia/Coutinho (but no goals without risk taking obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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