Demitri_C Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: He said one day he will come back. He will cost 60/70 million to buy I dont think he would score much in our current system I think he would thrive personally with couts buendia/bailey. He is more of a presence in the box than ollie is too. I think 60m for tammy would be worth it. He is still not that old. Id love him back. I think we might cash in on traore too. Has rarely featured. Id keep him though as a good option that offers something different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Scoring in our current system may be extremely difficult, but as long as we bring in a world class striker we could still avoid relegation next season. Same goes for the defence. The system is very demanding as a single DM has to cover vast spaces alone, but if we sign Kante it could work. Just don’t question the system. It does seem a bit culty the blind support for the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: It does seem a bit culty the blind support for the system How exactly? We’ve had two managers with two very distinct systems - one working a majority of a days they inherited for that system. It’s hard when clearly the manager doesn’t rate a lot of the players for the system he wants and has a surplus of wingers as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just now, The_Steve said: How exactly? We’ve had two managers with two very distinct systems - one working a majority of a days they inherited for that system. It’s hard when clearly the manager doesn’t rate a lot of the players for the system he wants and has a surplus of wingers as a result. That was the problem already. We had a lot of wide players and hired a manager who doesn't play them Smacks in the face of what was supposed to happen. Would be like Liverpool sacking Klopp tomorrow and hiring Big Sam style manager. Supposed to hire a similar style with own tweaks, not a guy who lost trophies to Neil Lennon and Tommy Wright 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Wouldn't mind Eriksen if the Coutinho deal falls through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Feels like the whole Summer is going to be us chasing overpriced average players and Newcastle buying good players who fit their team for fair prices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Feels like the whole Summer is going to be us chasing overpriced average players and Newcastle buying good players who fit their team for fair prices. Counterpoint: we do exactly what you describe Newcastle as doing - every evidence shows how they massively overpay already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: Counterpoint: we do exactly what you describe Newcastle as doing - every evidence shows how they massively overpay already Do they? They got Targett on loan, Trippier from a Champions League team for 12 million We spend 25 million on a left back who hasnt shown anything when fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Do they? They got Targett on loan, Trippier from a Champions League team for 12 million We spend 25 million on a left back who hasnt shown anything when fit They also paid £25m for Chris Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, duke313 said: They also paid £25m for Chris Wood They had no centre forward as WIlson got a bad injury. What other strikers were available in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
og1874 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, sne said: Wouldn't mind Eriksen if the Coutinho deal falls through. Really thought we missed a trick not bringing him in during the January window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: They had no centre forward as WIlson got a bad injury. What other strikers were available in January? It's irrelevant what other strikers were available in January, the point was the overpaid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: It's irrelevant what other strikers were available in January, the point was the overpaid. They were in the relegation zone when he arrived and picked up 19 points since he joined. I think they wont be crying about it plus just a 2 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
og1874 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: They were in the relegation zone when he arrived and picked up 19 points since he joined. I think they wont be crying about it plus just a 2 year deal Yeah, they spent what... 90m or something in January? If you'd told them in December they'd spend 90m, some of which would be a bit questionable, but they'd stay up because of it, I'm sure none of them would've cared particularly much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Feels like the whole Summer is going to be us chasing overpriced average players and Newcastle buying good players who fit their team for fair prices. Have this feeling too. When Newcastle were bought, Villa got stressed and decided to act quick. Newcastle have surprised people by being sensible and building slowly, like Villa used to. Villa, on the other hand, are starting to act like people thought Newcastle would — scrapping the wage structure and chasing big names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: Do they? They got Targett on loan, Trippier from a Champions League team for 12 million We spend 25 million on a left back who hasnt shown anything when fit They spent close to £50m on that midfielder from Lyon and his game time isn’t exactly justifying the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Have this feeling too. When Newcastle were bought, Villa got stressed and decided to act quick. Newcastle have surprised people by being sensible and building slowly, like Villa used to. Villa, on the other hand, are starting to act like people thought Newcastle would — scrapping the wage structure and chasing big names. Nothing suggests that’s true - a left back was a long target and Digne became available so it was a no brainer. The sale of Grealish fundamentally changed the team - we were going to have a big spend because of it. None of it suggests reactionary. Chambers is an example of very shrewd business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: They spent close to £50m on that midfielder from Lyon and his game time isn’t exactly justifying the tag. He has started 3 of the last 5 games but its not easy to come mid season to a different league. They are gradually playing him in He might be a flop since the idiot Lyon fans rated him but he was not a player for this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Have this feeling too. When Newcastle were bought, Villa got stressed and decided to act quick. Newcastle have surprised people by being sensible and building slowly, like Villa used to. Villa, on the other hand, are starting to act like people thought Newcastle would — scrapping the wage structure and chasing big names. Apart from Digne for £25M (which could be argued that his value was justified, as he was labelled as the best left back outside the 'Big 6'), we've signed Chambers for Free and Coutinho and Olsen on loan. Doesn't seem to me like we are panic buying and overpaying. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: He has started 3 of the last 5 games but its not easy to come mid season to a different league. They are gradually playing him in He might be a flop since the idiot Lyon fans rated him but he was not a player for this season Which may well prove - but Lyon are notorious about holding out for big fees and the fact that only Newcastle was only willing pay such an inflated fee is evidence of overpaying regardless. Nobody else was going to pay that much when they effectively tried to hold a public auction with their club PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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