WallisFrizz Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Maybe off topic but what’s the point of this ”top 8” people now talk about? Would we be happy today if we were 8th instead of 9th? There is still six big clubs and the ling term goal is to break into that group isn’t it? I think there is the top 2, then places 3-5 fighting it out for CL with one losing out then 5-8 in the mix for Europa league and conference with one losing out. So to be ‘a top 8 side’, I guess must mean we would be in the mix for Europe albeit yes, finishing 8th gets you nothing ultimately. 9-14 mid table, 15 and below crap. We will never be in the top 2 or even 4. To finish 5th would be a dream season. To be in that 5-8 battle for Europe is where we are aiming for and a realistic aim I think. Our goal for the end of this season should be to finish as high in our mid table league as we can. For pride, for money for enhanced reputation. Unfortunately I think it will be something the fans care about more than the players who played like their season was done already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I still feel that the main problem position is the striker. We just need to fix that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, Laughable Chimp said: I still feel that the main problem position is the striker. We just need to fix that. I think the spine is the problem…a dominant central defender, a dominant central midfielder and a striker that fits the system. Three key positions for me need upgrading. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, Zatman said: Yesterday we had Coutinho, Watkins, Ings, Buendia, Ramsey, Bailey and Traore on the pitch We had enough attacking threats And they didn’t get a sniff because the midfield was over run. Mate for as long as I’ve been a member on here I’ve valued your opinion, but this season it just seems like every post is fuelled by your dislike of Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Who cares what "big/top [number]" Sky are currently using. Until we're somehow competing for the title, the only number that matters to me is how many league places offer European qualification. Was it even a thing before Chelsea were bought? In my teenage years we were constantly hearing about the big 4. Then Man City were bought, Tottenham had a few years of higher finishes and Leicester managed to somehow win the league. All this lead to a few of 'traditional' top 4 finishing a bit lower down the table, so the lingo had to change. Newcastle will be next added. Eventually every PL team will be owned by a despotic leader or one of their conduits and we'll effectively get a reset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Maybe off topic but what’s the point of this ”top 8” people now talk about? Would we be happy today if we were 8th instead of 9th? There is still six big clubs and the ling term goal is to break into that group isn’t it? Some people for some reason want us to be in the conference cup or whatever it is called...... I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, paul514 said: Some people for some reason want us to be in the conference cup or whatever it is called...... I don't. I do, good bit of coinage to be made against fairly weak opposition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League Quote Prize money[edit] Similar to the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, the prize money received by the clubs is divided into fixed payments based on participation and results, and variable amounts that depend on the value of their TV market.[17] For the 2021–22 season, group stage participation in the Europa Conference League is awarded a base fee of €2,940,000. A victory in the group pays €500,000 and a draw €166,000. Also, each group winner earns €650,000 and each runner-up €325,000. Reaching the knock-out stage triggers additional bonuses: €300,000 for the round of 32, €600,000 for the round of 16, €1,000,000 for the quarter-finals and €2,000,000 for the semi-finals. The losing finalists receive €3,000,000 and the champions receive €5,000,000.[18] First qualifying round elimination: €150,000 Second qualifying round elimination: €350,000 Third qualifying round elimination: €550,000 Play-off round elimination: €750,000 Qualified to Group Stage: €2,940,000 Match won in Group Stage: €500,000 Match drawn in Group Stage: €166,000 1st in Group Stage: €650,000 2nd in Group Stage: €325,000 Knockout round play-offs: €300,000 Round of 16: €600,000 Quarter-final: €1,000,000 Semi-final: €2,000,000 Runner-up: €3,000,000 Champion: €5,000,000 Also, each domestic champion not qualifying for the Group Stages of any final tournament will receive an additional €260,000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, nick76 said: I do, good bit of coinage to be made against fairly weak opposition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League No where near enough money to compare with the havoc it would cause to our league performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, paul514 said: No where near enough money to compare with the havoc it would cause to our league performance We would play the back up players though not our first team. Plus we'd sell out VP so even more additional revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, CVByrne said: We would play the back up players though not our first team. Plus we'd sell out VP so even more additional revenue Would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, paul514 said: No where near enough money to compare with the havoc it would cause to our league performance Maybe! I’d rather get it then have that to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, nick76 said: Maybe! I’d rather get it then have that to worry about. Well yea, maybe. Most of the time it messes up the teams performance in the league. The same thing happens in the Europa league but at least that is prestigious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, paul514 said: Some people for some reason want us to be in the conference cup or whatever it is called...... I don't. I don't think having more games is a bad thing. We've got a big squad with quite a few players who haven't really had a chance to show what they can do. It might not be exactly what we want to be competing for, but the only thing I can remember us winning is this: Edited March 20, 2022 by Sam-AVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, paul514 said: Would we? Yeah the teams in that competition group stages are lower league level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 The Europa Conference League is also a second way to make our way up the league. Win it and we are in the Europa League and if we win that we are in the Champions League. Bit of dreaming but it is a way to reach higher without getting top-4 in Premier League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, nick76 said: I do, good bit of coinage to be made against fairly weak opposition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League A chance to give fringe players minutes as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: Who cares what "big/top [number]" Sky are currently using. Until we're somehow competing for the title, the only number that matters to me is how many league places offer European qualification. Was it even a thing before Chelsea were bought? In my teenage years we were constantly hearing about the big 4. Then Man City were bought, Tottenham had a few years of higher finishes and Leicester managed to somehow win the league. All this lead to a few of 'traditional' top 4 finishing a bit lower down the table, so the lingo had to change. Newcastle will be next added. Eventually every PL team will be owned by a despotic leader or one of their conduits and we'll effectively get a reset. I was reading articles from the 80s recently, they kept mentioning ”the big five”. Man City weren’t part of that group, nor were Chelsea. But Everton were! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Wasn't impressed with Gomez Very impressed by Spence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Wasn't impressed with Gomez Very impressed by Spence Gomez was playing at right back, he’s not a right back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 What could have been if Bentancur signed for us.. Absolutely bossed it in today's game against West ham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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