Xela Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, picicata said: Or a manager with some tactical nouse Gerrard is a winner and he deserves a chance to sort us out. Anyone wanting to change the manager now needs to give their head a wobble. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Xela said: Gerrard is a winner and he deserves a chance to sort us out. Anyone wanting to change the manager now needs to give their head a wobble. I'm not suggesting we change manager. We chose an inexperienced, tactically naive man for our manager and that is the bed in which we must lie. Signing a whole host of of new players in the summer won't do shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, picicata said: I'm not suggesting we change manager. We chose an inexperienced, tactically naive man for our manager and that is the bed in which we must lie. Signing a whole host of of new players in the summer won't do shit. Conte has just lost two home games to Southampton and Wolves. He's meant to be a genius. Maybe our players just aren't good enough, hence why we need yet another overhaul. We'll soon see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Xela said: Conte has just lost two home games to Southampton and Wolves. He's meant to be a genius. Maybe our players just aren't good enough, hence why we need yet another overhaul. We'll soon see I guess. They're far better than they played today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Xela said: Conte has just lost two home games to Southampton and Wolves. He's meant to be a genius. Maybe our players just aren't good enough, hence why we need yet another overhaul. We'll soon see I guess. They are if we expect to finish mid table, this team is never going to challenge the top 10. So we need to manage our expectations in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, picicata said: They're far better than they played today They're inconsistent. Mid table players. Play well one week, poor the next Getting elite players though... thats the challenge! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Xela said: Gerrard is a winner and he deserves a chance to sort us out. Anyone wanting to change the manager now needs to give their head a wobble. Did he really win that much? One Champions League the standout, but no league (actively cost Liverpool one by falling over) and part of the underachieving England team. Agree it is way too soon to change things up, just wanted to challenge that perception. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, sharkyvilla said: Did he really win that much? One Champions League the standout, but no league (actively cost Liverpool one by falling over) and part of the underachieving England team. Agree it is way too soon to change things up, just wanted to challenge that perception. I was on about the mentality more, but he has won 5 domestic cups as a player for Liverpool as well as lifting the Champions League, plus 2 other European trophies. Also, he won the league with Rangers, stopping Celtic's 10 in a row quest. I think he's a good leader. I guess we'll see how much that all means in the next 12 months or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Anyone else think the key area is the buy a seriously good DM so that Luiz and McGinn can play further forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, calcifer said: They are if we expect to finish mid table, this team is never going to challenge the top 10. So we need to manage our expectations in all honesty. Never challenge the top 10? We finished 11th last season and have strengthened since. Our squad is no worse than Wolves, Brighton’s or Southampton’s and all of those are in the top 10 currently. Our squad also has a higher valuation than West Ham who are 4th. I guess Gerrard would agree with you though, buying more expensive players will always be the easy way out for a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Xela said: After today. We need some players with winning mentalities. I thought thats why we hired our manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Xela said: Gerrard is a winner and he deserves a chance to sort us out. Anyone wanting to change the manager now needs to give their head a wobble. Tim Sherwood was a winner, so maybe was Steve Bruce and Remi Garde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2022 I hope our so far wonderful owners stay patient and back the manager in the summer. They've spent so much and our progress has stagnated. Hopefully they understood after Jack left that it's going to be a difficult season, and are not overly disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Villarocker said: Anyone else think the key area is the buy a seriously good DM so that Luiz and McGinn can play further forward? Ramsey is ahead of both, Luiz technically is better than McGinn. Add the new DM and that's the three for me, McGinn benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Martinez Cash- Konsa- New Cb- Digne New CM- New DM- Ramsey Buendia- New CF- Coutinho Outs: Mcginn- £40 mil Sanson- £10 Mil Luiz- £25 Mil Davis- £8Mil Ings- £20 Mil El Ghazi- Free Trasnfer Trezeguet- 8mil Total = 100 Mil Ins: Lisandro Martínez- £30 Mil Massengo- £5 Mil Bissouma- £30 Mil Kouadio Koné- £15Mil Armando Broja- £25 Mil Coutinho- £30 Mil Total = £135 Mil New team for 2022/23 Martinez Cash- Konsa- Martinez- Digne Kone- Bissouma- Ramsey Buendia- Broja- Coutinho Edited February 13, 2022 by messi11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Villarocker said: Anyone else think the key area is the buy a seriously good DM so that Luiz and McGinn can play further forward? McGinn is already playing further forward, and playing terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, messi11 said: Martinez Cash- Konsa- New Cb- Digne New CM- New DM- Ramsey Buendia- New CF- Coutinho Outs: Mcginn- £40 mil Sanson- £10 Mil Luiz- £25 Mil Davis- £8Mil Ings- £20 Mil El Ghazi- Free Trasnfer Trezeguet- 8mil Total = 100 Mil Ins: Lisandro Martínez- £30 Mil Massengo- £5 Mil Bissouma- £30 Mil Kouadio Koné- £15Mil Armando Broja- £25 Mil Coutinho- £30 Mil Total = £135 Mil New team for 2022/23 Martinez Cash- Konsa- Martinez- Digne Kone- Bissouma- Ramsey Buendia- Broja- Coutinho If anybody offered us more than 15m for McGinn I'd bite their arm off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, messi11 said: Martinez Cash- Konsa- New Cb- Digne New CM- New DM- Ramsey Buendia- New CF- Coutinho Outs: Mcginn- £40 mil Sanson- £10 Mil Luiz- £25 Mil Davis- £8Mil Ings- £20 Mil El Ghazi- Free Trasnfer Trezeguet- 8mil Total = 100 Mil Ins: Lisandro Martínez- £30 Mil Massengo- £5 Mil Bissouma- £30 Mil Kouadio Koné- £15Mil Armando Broja- £25 Mil Coutinho- £30 Mil Total = £135 Mil New team for 2022/23 Martinez Cash- Konsa- Martinez- Digne Kone- Bissouma- Ramsey Buendia- Broja- Coutinho Need a new RB desperately. Someone like Ricardo Pereira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I honestly think this could be our last big window before the ownership start placing an emphasis on the youth players or start asking serious questions of Purslow. I’d approach the window attempting to do the following: ——————Martinez—————— Cash——Konsa—New——Digne ———————New——————— Ramsey———————New——— ——Buendia———Coutinho—— ———————New——————— Thats 4 new starters and that’s before we talk about Cash and the right back position. We need to look to obviously raise funds so I’d be looking to sell a select few from the following: McGinn Watkins Ings Sanson Luiz Traore, Trezeguet and El Ghazi need to leave permanently. If we’re serious about progressing, we need to make some moves this Summer. The problem we’ll have is we won’t be all too attractive after another bottom half finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I can see them cashing in on Luiz, Cash and Ollie. The spine of the team needs an overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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