Anything11 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 After reading that Dougie interview in the Guardian I am quite interested to see other midfielders with Kamara next to them (Tielemans esp). It looks as if Kamara is that guy who makes everyone else around him look incredible - more so than I initially thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just thought I'd ask as I see different dates banded around a lot, in relation to his return. Is it a 6 month injury? 9 months? I've seen some say he could return to training in October, some saying January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Just thought I'd ask as I see different dates banded around a lot, in relation to his return. Is it a 6 month injury? 9 months? I've seen some say he could return to training in October, some saying January. ACL with Villa players 1 year+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 We really need this guy to come back sooner rather than later, especially with Doug's impending departure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 On 13/06/2024 at 00:22, Anything11 said: After reading that Dougie interview in the Guardian I am quite interested to see other midfielders with Kamara next to them (Tielemans esp). It looks as if Kamara is that guy who makes everyone else around him look incredible - more so than I initially thought. Got a link to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Just thought I'd ask as I see different dates banded around a lot, in relation to his return. Is it a 6 month injury? 9 months? I've seen some say he could return to training in October, some saying January. i have seen a return to training timeframe proposed as somewhere between Oct and Nov depending on how he is recovering, then he needs to get fit and up to speed, so realistically he wont be anywhere near fit until jan onwards. that might even be a bit overly positive, unsure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) Just now, MaVilla said: i have seen a return to training timeframe proposed as somewhere between Oct and Nov depending on how he is recovering, then he needs to get fit and up to speed, so realistically he wont be anywhere near fit until jan onwards. that might even be a bit overly positive, unsure. Thanks. Would we say it'll take him 3 months to get fit though? Seems a long time. Edited June 24 by PaulMcGrath_5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Thanks. Would we say it'll take him 3 months to get fit though? Seems a long time. if he is back training in Nov sometime, 4-6 weeks to get match fit is probably overly optimistic (so that would take us to Dec/Jan, he wouldnt have played for over a year, and getting match fit mid season isnt ideal - no preseason) Edited June 24 by MaVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, Tom13 said: Got a link to this? https://amp.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/12/douglas-luiz-unai-emery-aston-villa-brazil-football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Thanks. Would we say it'll take him 3 months to get fit though? Seems a long time. Did you see the pictures of mings's legs when he resumed training?! Its a long slow process as it takes time to rebuild the muscle and build up to contact training. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Did you see the pictures of mings's legs when he resumed training?! Its a long slow process as it takes time to rebuild the muscle and build up to contact training. Good point, well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) Somehow need to find a way to keep Bouba fit and avoid serious injury once he’s back… isn’t that two big injuries in two seasons now? He’s so good… we need to find a way to keep him in the squad for the whole season. Could he bulk a bit, be rested and rotated (by bringing in more players who can cover his role and position), put on a more specific fitness regime or plan? Don’t really know what would help, sometimes injuries are just bad luck. But if there’s anything we can do to lower the risks, we should… Edited June 24 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 23 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Somehow need to find a way to keep Bouba fit and avoid serious injury once he’s back… isn’t that two big injuries in two seasons now? He’s so good… we need to find a way to keep him in the squad for the whole season. Could he bulk a bit, be rested and rotated (by bringing in more players who can cover his role and position), put on a more specific fitness regime or plan? Don’t really know what would help, sometimes injuries are just bad luck. But if there’s anything we can do to lower the risks, we should… He had that ankle injury he came back too early from. Ended up missing about 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 4 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Thanks. Would we say it'll take him 3 months to get fit though? Seems a long time. I think he'll be back in training around November and playing in December. Tielemans will be excellent playing with him like Luiz was at his best beside him also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 33 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He had that ankle injury he came back too early from. Ended up missing about 8 games. So maybe the answer is reducing the reliance on him…. get him the proper rest and recovery times? If we have a good alternative, we can afford to do that. Hopefully Barrenechea is that guy, maybe we add another too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I reckon feb is more a realistic return time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, Jas10 said: Somehow need to find a way to keep Bouba fit and avoid serious injury once he’s back… isn’t that two big injuries in two seasons now? He’s so good… we need to find a way to keep him in the squad for the whole season. Could he bulk a bit, be rested and rotated (by bringing in more players who can cover his role and position), put on a more specific fitness regime or plan? Don’t really know what would help, sometimes injuries are just bad luck. But if there’s anything we can do to lower the risks, we should… Didn't he injure himself by slipping whilst twisting rather than actual contact? I'm not sure whether bulking up would help prevent that type of injury. I think I read that someone's doing a study to try and find out why there seem to be more ACL injuries in both the men's and women's games (especially at elite level). If I remember correctly they seemed to think that general fitness or fatigue would be less likely than the design of modern boots or the composition of the grass / artificial grass and sub-surface. Something to do with the boots are more likely to dig into the surface and "catch" - which is great generally for turning, accelerating, etc but yet if it catches wrong makes it more likely for your foot and body to want to be going in different directions and puts more pressure on ankles, knees, etc. A possible downside of almost immaculate playing surfaces and super-efficient bootware as opposed to playing in 5cms of water-logged mud with huge clods of mud/grass tearing out of the ground every time you tried to kick the ball or make a sliding tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 9 hours ago, Jas10 said: Somehow need to find a way to keep Bouba fit and avoid serious injury once he’s back… isn’t that two big injuries in two seasons now? He’s so good… we need to find a way to keep him in the squad for the whole season. Could he bulk a bit, be rested and rotated (by bringing in more players who can cover his role and position), put on a more specific fitness regime or plan? Don’t really know what would help, sometimes injuries are just bad luck. But if there’s anything we can do to lower the risks, we should… It was a non contact injury. Bulking up and specific fitness routines don't help. It was just bad luck. Having said that nowadays the new pig ACL's they put in are stronger than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 9 minutes ago, Anything11 said: It was a non contact injury. Bulking up and specific fitness routines don't help. It was just bad luck. Having said that nowadays the new pig ACL's they put in are stronger than the original. Not taking the piss here, but is he not a Muslim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 50 minutes ago, Awol said: Not taking the piss here, but is he not a Muslim? Good point to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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