Vive_La_Villa Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I’m probably the only one but I’ve never really got the hype. He’s a good player but fans around here make out he’s a world beater. I don’t think there’s any concerns of losing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, est1874 said: I think Kamara is a good player but not as good as some people seem to want to believe. Sorry should have read this first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: People want to sell one of our better players after one rough game? For a pittance? I've come to the conclusion a large section of our fans are complete Alf Garnett word. And don't deserve a good team. Instead of trying to insult me, try reading my posts in full and the reasoning for my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Zatman said: but he is better than 65 million linked Cheick Doucoure and Lavia. Also is better than 115 million Caicedo so its a bit ridiculous some are suggesting they would take 50 million for him Some members on here seem to think we are some plucky Championship club who should be selling at the first offer I don’t think we should be even thinking of selling him but let’s not go nuts. Edited August 16, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t think we should be even thinking of selling him but let’s go nuts. How so? Caicedo has had one decent season playing in the most systematic team in the league while Kamara has French caps and Champions League experience playing different styles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: How so? Caicedo has had one decent season playing in the most systematic team in the league while Kamara has French caps and Champions League experience playing different styles Opinions hey. All part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: I'm going to clarify my position on this as my earlier opinion on it (just my opinion btw) has seemingly really upset a few posters. He's very good. I don't think he's world class. I'd sell him IF we got a high offer. 50 mill i said i'd accept but when you see the fees players are going for now i'd up it. For me, world class means you barely ever make mistakes, or put your team in trouble. I defy anyone to realistically tell me he hasn't given away/been dispossessed on the edge of his own box on multiple occasions. He also misplaces too many passes to be considered world class. Douglas Luiz on the other hand, I feel is the better player - how often do you see him doing slmething suicidal? BK is very good at winning the ball and moving it quickly. I also think some of you could just disagree with the opinion rather than have a hissy fit about it. I love Doug but he has given the ball away in stupid areas a lot and a fair number of penalties in his time with us. I lost count of how many times he's been bullied off the ball and fallen over with no foul given. I still think he's class but we've been generally forgiving because he was young and new to the Premiership and at first at least part of a struggling team. Kamara is young also and its only his second season, people were hailing him as world class and our best midfielder last season at times. The issue for me is we don't have a true sh*t house midfielder willing to foul/bend the rules as much as possible like most teams. Doug and Kamara are way to soft and it really counts against us at times. Only thing we have that can do that kind of damage is McGinn's arse. Either way he's worth stupid money for anyone stupid enough to try and take him from us. We need more class players not less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hank Scorpio Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Instead of trying to insult me, try reading my posts in full and the reasoning for my opinion I did. There is no point. I didn't detect any reasoning. And it's odd because your normally one of the people I find I agree with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: I did. There is no point. I didn't detect any reasoning. And it's odd because your normally one of the people I find I agree with! "Alf Garnett Word" very classy. Off you pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Instead of trying to insult me, try reading my posts in full and the reasoning for my opinion 5 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: I did. There is no point. I didn't detect any reasoning. And it's odd because your normally one of the people I find I agree with! I mean this in the most mutually respectful, affectionate way, but we do all seem a bit thin-skinned this week, don't we? What's going on? (Oh, we had a catastrophic shock to our hope and dreams in the last week and maybe haven't totally got over it. ) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: I mean this in the most mutually respectful, affectionate way, but we do all seem a bit thin-skinned this week, don't we? What's going on? (Oh, we had a catastrophic shock to our hope and dreams in the last week and maybe haven't totally got over it. ) The usual on here - don't try and state an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I also wouldn’t be upset if he was sold. He gives the ball away a lot by dithering. Never really understood the hype. Decent player but nothing more. If we could get 50 mill for him we should take it 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If the bin dippers were willing to pay £60 million for Lavia then Bouba is worth £75-£90million… We’ve no need to sell and they're desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, thabucks said: If the bin dippers were willing to pay £60 million for Lavia then Bouba is worth £75-£90million… We’ve no need to sell and they're desperate. Well considering they agreed £110M for Caicedo, if they do come calling I'd be demanding the same. Edited August 16, 2023 by villan95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvfcRigo82 Posted August 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2023 Seen the thread was 'Hot!'.. popped in to see what the fuss is about.. So I decide to go back a few pages.... ... and goodbye. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Yeah...talk of selling Kamara and him not even being that great I'm out... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Yeah...talk of selling Kamara and him not even being that great I'm out... I still don't totally accept that he even was that bad on Saturday given the totality of circumstances. Groupthink and recency bias at work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Jas10 said: amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 hours ago, est1874 said: You're probably right. And in any event I wouldn't accept 50m for him if that's what's being touted, no way. But if Liverpool were to offer silly money, well, everyone's got a price. But here's where that's a false economy, as the replacement player also has a price, is likely to occupy the bulk of the transfer fee and requires a certain element of luck in order to improve the team. Chances are we'll go backwards in overall quality. Hence why we're moving more to a model where academy players that are good, but not good enough (yet) for where we wish to be, are the ones that have a 'price'. They're far more profitable to the club than selling a star for £100m, and replacing him with two lesser players but with a higher combined wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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