Pinebro Posted Sunday at 15:29 Share Posted Sunday at 15:29 So so poor Playing him and Konsa means we have no attacking outlet when we break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted Sunday at 15:36 Share Posted Sunday at 15:36 Digne is so stiff as an outlet when playing. He does fine and I can't fault him too much but he's limited as an option. Just like Moreno was when he first joined I feel Maatsen is now a better option overall and will be more dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted Sunday at 15:40 Share Posted Sunday at 15:40 He's not getting forward as much and comes back too often. I think Ramsey needs a period out of the 11 but we are better off having Ramsey/Maatsen starting and then bringing on Digne with Duran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted Sunday at 15:43 Share Posted Sunday at 15:43 2 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: He's not getting forward as much and comes back too often. No point in him getting forward. Got zero pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChesterDad Posted Sunday at 16:06 Popular Post Share Posted Sunday at 16:06 I must confess that I find the criticism of Digne to be very harsh. I think he is an excellent footballer, intelligent, technically good with the ball, and whilst I would agree that he didn’t get into enough forward positions today, this wasn’t really on him in my view. Its great to have Maatsen lurking as the proverbial “ kick up the back side “ but I have not seen enough yet for him to be starting over Digne. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted Sunday at 17:19 Share Posted Sunday at 17:19 1 hour ago, ChesterDad said: I must confess that I find the criticism of Digne to be very harsh. I think he is an excellent footballer, intelligent, technically good with the ball, and whilst I would agree that he didn’t get into enough forward positions today, this wasn’t really on him in my view. Its great to have Maatsen lurking as the proverbial “ kick up the back side “ but I have not seen enough yet for him to be starting over Digne. Agreed. He's a good player and does a lot for the side. Maatsen seems to be ideal as an impact sub and I wouldn't mess with that right now. Digne is the least of our worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted Sunday at 19:31 Share Posted Sunday at 19:31 3 hours ago, Pinebro said: No point in him getting forward. Got zero pace There was occasion midway through second where we broke their backline with pass but Digne was already gassed and didn't fancy running to the box. Just checked back and the move fizzled out. We really need Maatsen on the end of these moves. People always go on about a bigger squad and we have it now in some areas yet we seem to have the mentality of only trusting about 12 players to actually start a prem match. Today was a ideal opportunity to give starts to Maatsen and Barkley at least. When you see how flat we were for most of the game I really hope Unai decides now is the time to trust some of the summer signings more. Bayern will take a fair amount out of us so we need those two as a minimum starting against Man. United I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted Sunday at 19:34 Share Posted Sunday at 19:34 3 hours ago, ChesterDad said: I must confess that I find the criticism of Digne to be very harsh. I think he is an excellent footballer, intelligent, technically good with the ball, and whilst I would agree that he didn’t get into enough forward positions today, this wasn’t really on him in my view. Its great to have Maatsen lurking as the proverbial “ kick up the back side “ but I have not seen enough yet for him to be starting over Digne. Digne's been really good in last 12 months. However unless it's get to the byline and whip in a cross a few too many moves are breaking down at his feet currently. There's also more emphasis on him to become the attacking outlet with Konsa the other side again. Maatsen can take us to the next level with his quality on counter. He was starting a CL final four months back so I find it a bit laughable he's going to take longer to learn our system and so not allowed to start prem games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted Sunday at 20:15 Share Posted Sunday at 20:15 Aside from Pau he’s the most effective part of our back line going forward & (including Pau) our most consistent team defender. If we need a breakaway attack on the left we have Ramsey, the end product was lacking today but their link play showed moments of quality. Ive heard a lot about Ian being a CL final quality player but haven’t seen any of that in a Villa shirt. I believe he’ll likely prove to be a competent player but today he came on had a really poor give away and provided nothing that showed any improvement over Digne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips'ngravy Posted Sunday at 20:25 Share Posted Sunday at 20:25 Given our RB issues, is it that unthinkable that Digne could step in there for a couple of games whilst Maatsen plays at LB? He's not the most attacking of LBs anyway so if he was the sitting full back whilst Maatsen had license to bomb forward it probably wouldn't be that noticeable that he's a left-footer. I guess he's competent with his right foot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted Sunday at 20:27 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 20:27 This thread is nuts. Digne is and has been one of our best players. Today he wanted to take the free kick in the end, and Unai decides to sub him off and let Emi2 take it straight off the bench. Daft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted Sunday at 21:45 Share Posted Sunday at 21:45 The annoyance is that there's space to exploit but he's doing the Matty Cash pull-back thing too much. Outside of pace, he's fine but it's becoming too safe in the cut-backs instead of driving forward with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted Sunday at 22:17 Share Posted Sunday at 22:17 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wezbid said: The annoyance is that there's space to exploit but he's doing the Matty Cash pull-back thing too much. I would guess this is in large part down to tactical instruction. We know Unai plans/manages down to the smallest detail. I’d imagine the consistent cutting back & recycling through Pau is what he’s looking for. Edited Monday at 00:42 by grantholtgolazo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted Sunday at 22:52 Share Posted Sunday at 22:52 31 minutes ago, grantholtgolazo said: I would guess this is in large part down to tactical instruction. We know Unai plans/manages down to the smallest detail. I’d imagine the consist cutting back & recycling through Pau is what he’s looking for. You're probably right, it's just frustration as much as anything. Sometimes it feels like the shackles could be slightly loosened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted Monday at 11:17 Share Posted Monday at 11:17 With Konsa on the right you need someone far more dynamic on the left. Just look at the goal when Ramsey, Maatsen and Duran combined for an amazing one touch goal. That dynamism looked very similar to when Moreno and Ramsey were linking together for amazing play game after game. This isn't about banishing Digne to the bench. He will play a large part this season but I feel he and Konsa are not compatible as the 2 full backs. Just kills any attack when both fullbacks pretty much refuse to overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG23 Posted Monday at 11:42 Share Posted Monday at 11:42 Was arguing with one of the coaches yesterday when he was subbed, not sure if it was purely down to being taken off or because Villa had a free kick on the edge of the box perfect for a left footed strike. Or maybe a bit of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted Monday at 12:03 Share Posted Monday at 12:03 15 hours ago, AVTuco said: This thread is nuts. Digne is and has been one of our best players. Today he wanted to take the free kick in the end, and Unai decides to sub him off and let Emi2 take it straight off the bench. Daft. Yeah, really couldn't understand that one. Perfect for a leftie bending it around the wall and a right footer standing at the free-kick too not allowing the keeper to take liberties and not cover the far post. Taking him off and giveing it to the sub who just came on seemed baffling. Almost as baffling as bringing Philogene on who has shown absolute zero in all his games to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted Monday at 13:01 Share Posted Monday at 13:01 1 hour ago, Rightdm00 said: This isn't about banishing Digne to the bench. He will play a large part this season but I feel he and Konsa are not compatible as the 2 full backs. Just kills any attack when both fullbacks pretty much refuse to overlap. You're obviously entitled to your opinion but that last bit just isn't true at all. Digne has two assists in 6 games, and in most games spends way more time in the opposition half than he does his own. Obviously that's dependent on the quality of the opposition to a certain extent, but he loves to get forward and his crossing is usually excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted Monday at 13:34 Share Posted Monday at 13:34 (edited) 1 hour ago, Risso said: You're obviously entitled to your opinion but that last bit just isn't true at all. Digne has two assists in 6 games, and in most games spends way more time in the opposition half than he does his own. Obviously that's dependent on the quality of the opposition to a certain extent, but he loves to get forward and his crossing is usually excellent. Getting forward and consistently overlapping your wide midfielder are two very different things. Most of our buildup involves Digne and Ramsey almost parallel to the defensive line. Each pretty much getting in the way of the other. Ramsey looks to overlap but Digne is pretty much allergic to it unless it's the most obvious of choices. So they play these nice triangles that lead to nowhere before recycling through the midfield to the other side of the pitch. If Ramsey is our guy on the left then he needs an athletic fullback to interchange with. He had this with Alex Moreno before his injury and now with Maatsen. Otherwise lesser teams will continue to low block us and spring the counter when we run out of ideas in possession. Edited Monday at 14:58 by Rightdm00 Wide not wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted Monday at 13:53 Share Posted Monday at 13:53 18 minutes ago, Rightdm00 said: consistently overlapping your wife 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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