Made In Aston Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: Coutinho is one of the most talented ball players that I've seen, so why am I worried about the prospect of us signing him? I think most of us have agreed that Villa are too soft in and around the midfield. We let ourselves down physically on a regular basis. We aren't strong enough, we don't press for 90 minutes. We don't rough up the opposition because we're too nice and too lightweight. We get beaten by lesser teams like Brentford because they get at us physically all match. Coutinho would be a marketing coup, but would he be the answer to our glaring shortcomings? He would add creativity which we also lack, but wouldn't that come at a price of reducing further the ability of our midfield to compete physically. Midfielders Buendia 172 cms (5'7) - no pace Coutinho 172 cms -no pace Luiz 175 cms - no pace McGinn 178 cms - average pace Ramsey 180 cms - reasonably pacy Sanson 180cms - average pace Traore 180 cms -average pace Chukwuemeka 182 cms- no real pace El ghazi 189 cms - pacy Strikers Ings 178 cms no real pace Watkins 180cms - pacy If we loan Coutinho it would obviously be to play him, so our starting midfield would be more talented but even smaller, physically weaker, fairly slow and not great at tracking back. I'm excited by the prospect of someone as talented as Coutinho playing for Villa and if SG can also get his 2/3 pinpointed transfer targets to sign that may well add some bite and support in and around the midfield. If he can't make those signings then I wonder how effective Coutinho can be. Are we a counter attack team?! If not, then pace isn't anywhere near as important as technical ability. Edited January 6, 2022 by Made In Aston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 My concern is he shone in what was an excellent Liverpool side with none of the weaknesses our current side have. I am in no way doubting his natural talents but what worries me is that our weaknesses may expose his and we won't get the Liverpool version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted January 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 Quote from BBC feed of the pre match press conference https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/59879205 Quote Aston Villa boss Steven Gerrard has been up in front of the media this afternoon. He was happy to talk glowingly about Philippe Coutinho, who he played with at Liverpool but less forthcoming on rumours that the Brazilian could be heading to Villa Park. "He won two leagues, two league titles for Barcelona. He won two Copa del Reys," Gerrard said. "I think if you look at his Wiki page I think you will see a serial winner wherever he has been so I have nothing but positive things to say about the player. "He's a friend of mine - so if I'm asked the questions I can speak for as long as you want but if you're trying to link it to any speculation or looking to catch me out you're in for a long afternoon." That doesn’t sound like a denial of interest to me… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I’m one that doesn’t want Coutinho. Not because he’s past it, or shit or whatever. But because his name keeps reminding me that this exists: Do NOT play this video, you WILL regret it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Good ole “advanced negotiations.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I thought about this and Coutinho has Barca over the barrel. He knows they need to move him on this window to register Torres. So he can say, no chance I'm joining Newcastle the year of a World Cup. He's Brazilian, playing in the World Cup probably means absolutely everything to him. With Gerrard and Villa he has the most assurances of regular game time, a manager he knows very well and the best football league in the world in which to play. The system is perfect for him too a free roaming 10 behind a CF with the work rate of Watkins. I think because so much power is in Coutinho's hands, it helps Villa the most if he wants to come here. All makes lovely rational sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Pissflaps said: Inter sold him Liverpool for relative peanuts as he wasn't reaching the levels they thought he could as I recall? Bayern I don't know much about was it about a 6 month loan? £12m he was young at the time had been on loan at Espanyol and done well there , he scored 12 goals for Bayern in around roughly 33 appearances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Aston_Villan4 said: Good ole “advanced negotiations.” I hope Barca are braced for a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: blockquote widget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Get in my club Philly Willy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, cyrusr said: Quote from BBC feed of the pre match press conference https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/59879205 That doesn’t sound like a denial of interest to me… It doesn’t, does it. In fact, it reads like the opposite. He’s happy to talk for as long as you want about Coutinho as a friend. But if you’re asking about the interest from Villa, then you’re in for “a long afternoon”. It wouldn’t be a long afternoon if there was no substance. Ergo there’s definite interest and lots of detail to go into 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: My concern is he shone in what was an excellent Liverpool side with none of the weaknesses our current side have. I am in no way doubting his natural talents but what worries me is that our weaknesses may expose his and we won't get the Liverpool version I think Gerrard will make us harder to beat by being compact and disciplined. So, it makes sense to get the very highest quality up top to make sure we convert the small amount of chances we create maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Good ole “advanced negotiations.” Is he not supposed to have Villa sources 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: I hope Barca are braced for a bid. i hear they are preparing to be prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: £12m he was young at the time had been on loan at Espanyol and done well there , he scored 12 goals for Bayern in around roughly 33 appearances Coutinho doesn't know how lucky he got going to Liverpool, he would probably be playing in Moldova now if he played under Lambert Edited January 6, 2022 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Either that or it’s an FFP thing. Transfer fee falls in to next years accounts maybe ? Jack sale is this years accounts as will Coutinho's costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Quote from BBC feed of the pre match press conference https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/59879205 That doesn’t sound like a denial of interest to me… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: Coutinho is one of the most talented ball players that I've seen, so why am I worried about the prospect of us signing him? I think most of us have agreed that Villa are too soft in and around the midfield. We let ourselves down physically on a regular basis. We aren't strong enough, we don't press for 90 minutes. We don't rough up the opposition because we're too nice and too lightweight. We get beaten by lesser teams like Brentford because they get at us physically all match. Coutinho would be a marketing coup, but would he be the answer to our glaring shortcomings? He would add creativity which we also lack, but wouldn't that come at a price of reducing further the ability of our midfield to compete physically. Midfielders Buendia 172 cms (5'7) - no pace Coutinho 172 cms -no pace Luiz 175 cms - no pace McGinn 178 cms - average pace Ramsey 180 cms - reasonably pacy Sanson 180cms - average pace Traore 180 cms -average pace Chukwuemeka 182 cms- no real pace El ghazi 189 cms - pacy Strikers Ings 178 cms no real pace Watkins 180cms - pacy If we loan Coutinho it would obviously be to play him, so our starting midfield would be more talented but even smaller, physically weaker, fairly slow and not great at tracking back. I'm excited by the prospect of someone as talented as Coutinho playing for Villa and if SG can also get his 2/3 pinpointed transfer targets to sign that may well add some bite and support in and around the midfield. If he can't make those signings then I wonder how effective Coutinho can be. You forget to mention that Leon Bailey is faster then a speeding bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I was wondering how long it would take before that gif saw the light of day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Gerrard is an expert with the media isn't he... He can give nothing away whilst not even looking coy.i would hate to play him at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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