Nigel Posted January 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Robbie09 said: This shouldn’t be forgotten, who in their right mind would choose to work with Eddie Howe rather than SG? Someone who likes their house to be made of solid gold! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 If we miss out on him, how much you bet some of the same people moaning about us potentially signing a " washed up has been on ridiculous wages " will change their rants to us having a lack of ambition and no pull due to a novice Manager, being sold lies by this board etc etc. We haven't even spent the Grealish money Yadda yadda 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted January 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, sne said: he can be like say Juninho was when he returned to Middlesbrough then he'll still be useful. Exactly what I thought when we was linked with him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: If we miss out on him, how much you bet some of the same people moaning about us potentially signing a " washed up has been on ridiculous wages " will change their rants to us having a lack of ambition and no pull due to a novice Manager, being sold lies by this board etc etc. We haven't even spent the Grealish money Yadda yadda And if he signs for Newcastle some will say he wasn't any good anyway and that they are spending silly money on a over the hill has-been. Bit like before he was linked to us in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: If we miss out on him, how much you bet some of the same people moaning about us potentially signing a " washed up has been on ridiculous wages " will change their rants to us having a lack of ambition and no pull due to a novice Manager, being sold lies by this board etc etc. We haven't even spent the Grealish money Yadda yadda *making notes* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Excited by the thought of this. Think it would be a statement of intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, sne said: And if he signs for Newcastle some will say he wasn't any good anyway and that they are spending silly money on a over the hill has-been. Bit like before he was linked to us in the first place. True. I just think we are all pricks in our own ways to be honest. Full of contradictions us! I can see Newcastle being able to chuck money at enough quality mercenaries to have so much quality its hard for them to get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I don't get how this works on a financial sense What are we expecting from PC in between now and the end of the season ? - Do we really think PC and one or two other additions can transform us from a side the couldn't beat Brentford to a side that gets a European place ? - thus some financial reward ? Or do we fear a slide down the table without PC ? - so much so that his arrival finances itself by securing another year of PL TV Money ? Neither of the above scenarios seem feasible to me ? So does PC generate that much coverage \ exposure that we reap commercial benefits to offset his massive wages ? The only thing that would make footballing sense is if he joins permanently, and makes a major contribution this + next season. Obviously thats going to include a sizeable fee and wages - and would probably were stuck with him should he flop. Massive risk IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 What will his initiation song be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 This would be the absolute star quality we need. Both on and off the pitch. It attracts the media and commercial opportunities to our club. Even at 80 percent of his Liverpool form it makes him a huge star attraction. Buying the best players from the Championship has to be balanced with buying star dust . At his peak he was the player Grealish was striving to be. But at a higher ability than Grealish even showed. Quicker feet , faster , better long range shooting . Its wierd that we lost Grealish in the summer and are now looking to replace him with a player who wanted to be like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, BOF said: The obvious danger with this one is Barcelona's desperation for money and Newcastle's desperation to improve their team at all costs. Hopefully we're all but done and dusted at this stage. I thought about this and Coutinho has Barca over the barrel. He knows they need to move him on this window to register Torres. So he can say, no chance I'm joining Newcastle the year of a World Cup. He's Brazilian, playing in the World Cup probably means absolutely everything to him. With Gerrard and Villa he has the most assurances of regular game time, a manager he knows very well and the best football league in the world in which to play. The system is perfect for him too a free roaming 10 behind a CF with the work rate of Watkins. I think because so much power is in Coutinho's hands, it helps Villa the most if he wants to come here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, hippo said: I don't get how this works on a financial sense What are we expecting from PC in between now and the end of the season ? I think Plaid Cymru are treading water myself and have yet to make the breakdown gain like the SNP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 If anyone thinks he will go Newcastle there is a very juicy 6-1 on offer with skybet. Maximum stake £41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted January 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I can’t believe some people don’t want Coutinho… Well Barcelona don't 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: If we miss out on him, how much you bet some of the same people moaning about us potentially signing a " washed up has been on ridiculous wages " will change their rants to us having a lack of ambition and no pull due to a novice Manager, being sold lies by this board etc etc. We haven't even spent the Grealish money Yadda yadda Well if your going to Gerrard pull as an argument for him signing - then you have to say there is a counter argument if he goes and joins Newcastle or AN Other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: True. I just think we are all pricks in our own ways to be honest. Full of contradictions us! I can see Newcastle being able to chuck money at enough quality mercenaries to have so much quality its hard for them to get relegated. If he goes there I imagine it'll be as much about how much money they'd be willing to offer him for his next contract if there is a mandatory purchase clause. No club will give him £380k/w again but I bet they'll offer a bigger salary than we would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Nigel said: Are you insinuating that sky put money before the truth? Surely in the not too distant future some law wiz kid will realise that having a major news outlet running in conjunction with a major gambling operator may be a tad bit open to monkey business. The wiz kid may also discover that Sky sold SkyBet a number of years ago and it is no longer run in conjunction with the broadcasting company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, hippo said: I don't get how this works on a financial sense What are we expecting from PC in between now and the end of the season ? - Do we really think PC and one or two other additions can transform us from a side the couldn't beat Brentford to a side that gets a European place ? - thus some financial reward ? Or do we fear a slide down the table without PC ? - so much so that his arrival finances itself by securing another year of PL TV Money ? Neither of the above scenarios seem feasible to me ? So does PC generate that much coverage \ exposure that we reap commercial benefits to offset his massive wages ? The only thing that would make footballing sense is if he joins permanently, and makes a major contribution this + next season. Obviously thats going to include a sizeable fee and wages - and would probably were stuck with him should he flop. Massive risk IMO. I mean first of all we have absolutely no idea what this transfer means for our finances, so it's impossible to say either way right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hobbit Feet said: What will his initiation song be? You'll Never Walk Alone Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, hippo said: I don't get how this works on a financial sense What are we expecting from PC in between now and the end of the season ? - Do we really think PC and one or two other additions can transform us from a side the couldn't beat Brentford to a side that gets a European place ? - thus some financial reward ? Or do we fear a slide down the table without PC ? - so much so that his arrival finances itself by securing another year of PL TV Money ? Neither of the above scenarios seem feasible to me ? So does PC generate that much coverage \ exposure that we reap commercial benefits to offset his massive wages ? The only thing that would make footballing sense is if he joins permanently, and makes a major contribution this + next season. Obviously thats going to include a sizeable fee and wages - and would probably were stuck with him should he flop. Massive risk IMO. I don't think it's as complicated as you're making it. I think there is opportunity here for 2 reasons. Jack sale and the windfall of that sale and Gerrard and his personal relationship with Coutinho. The final element is Coutinho needs to be playing regular football this year because of the World Cup. To him financially he's sorted because Barca have to pay him and any Loan deal doesn't really impact his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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