tomsky_11 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: This should be the case playing with the likes of Digne and Coutinho not Neil Taylor and Hourihane. We are going to get better again next season. We're spending too much money not to. It's whether we're spending the money well, and whether the manager is maximising the resources on offer. A back 5 with Emi, Cash, Konsa and Mings with Luiz at 6 has been in place the majority of the past two seasons. We aren't suddenly more defensively solid because of Digne, expecially when there's been a lot of talk on here that at least one of that back 5's performances have gone massively backwards this season. I'd be more confident we were spending the money well if we knew how we'd be setting up the team, having spent six months getting players used to that way of playing and gearing up for a summer of replacing the players that don't fit it. Hopefully Beale leaving doesn't change this too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: You are literally putting graphs in a monkeys face with me. I have absolutely no idea what it means, but insane stuff like that is why I love the English language. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Zatman said: Except our manager played under one of them managers and won nothing what Alonso won as a player and no comparison between the football brains Alonso was a much more intelligent player than Gerrard was and the superior player I think my larger point is obvious. From what I've read, just some of the negatives on SG are: - " Just because you're a good player, doesn't mean you're a good manager/coach " ( the only reason he was apparently hired ) - " Took to long to have any success in a 2 horse tin pot league " etc. - " Was hired because he's Purslows mate " - " Liverpool Legend " However Xabi Alonso would be outstanding for us because he has/is: - " Was an elite player " ( So was SG ) - " Was an Intelligent player " ( So was SG ) - " Has played under some of the best Managers in the World " ( So has SG ) - " Coaches Real Sociedad B Team " ( SPL achievement is shite, but Real Sociedad B Management is adequate ) | They also played for the same club Purslow and SG like to hire " mates " from, so it's not far fetched to think they might have mutal " mates " he'd consider hiring if he were here, with experience in the League | You also rebut that " SG has won nothing like Xabi Alonso has " . Be honest here, the only reason for that is because he CHOSE to stay at his boyhood club, he literally could have gone to ANY of the clubs Alonso went to and picked up trophies. This has less to do with Xabi Alonso being class, and more to do with the hilarious irony, for me. Of course Alonso is class, the bare faced hypocrisy and contradictions, not so much. lol So in essence, Alonso would make an outstanding coach for us, for all the same reasons, Gerrard won't. Edited May 31, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I think my larger point is obvious. From what I've read, just some of the negatives on SG are: - " Just because you're a good player, doesn't mean you're a good manager/coach " ( the only reason he was apparently hired ) - " Took to long to have any success in a 2 horse tin pot league " etc. - " Was hired because he's Purslows mate " - " Liverpool Legend " However Xabi Alonso would be outstanding for us because he has/is: - " Was an elite player " ( So was SG ) - " Was an Intelligent player " ( So was SG ) - " Has played under some of the best Managers in the World " ( So has SG ) - " Coaches Real Sociedad B Team " ( SPL achievement is shite, but Real Sociedad B Management is adequate ) You also rebut that " SG has won nothing like Xabi Alonso has " . Be honest here, the only reason for that is because he CHOSE to stay at his boyhood club, he literally could have gone to ANY of the clubs Alonso went to and picked up trophies. This has less to do with Xabi Alonso being class, and more to do with the hilarious irony, for me. Of course Alonso is class, the bare faced hypocrisy and contradictions, not so much. lol So in essence, Alonso would make an outstanding coach for us, for all the same reasons, Gerrard won't. It’s why I don’t even bother engaging anymore mate. its not a reasoned debate, it’s just an irrational disliking of the man. Edited May 31, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted May 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2022 Can we play wingers now please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I think my larger point is obvious. From what I've read, just some of the negatives on SG are: - " Just because you're a good player, doesn't mean you're a good manager/coach " ( the only reason he was apparently hired ) - " Took to long to have any success in a 2 horse tin pot league " etc. - " Was hired because he's Purslows mate " - " Liverpool Legend " However Xabi Alonso would be outstanding for us because he has/is: - " Was an elite player " ( So was SG ) - " Was an Intelligent player " ( So was SG ) - " Has played under some of the best Managers in the World " ( So has SG ) - " Coaches Real Sociedad B Team " ( SPL achievement is shite, but Real Sociedad B Management is adequate ) You also rebut that " SG has won nothing like Xabi Alonso has " . Be honest here, the only reason for that is because he CHOSE to stay at his boyhood club, he literally could have gone to ANY of the clubs Alonso went to and picked up trophies. This has less to do with Xabi Alonso being class, and more to do with the hilarious irony, for me. Of course Alonso is class, the bare faced hypocrisy and contradictions, not so much. lol So in essence, Alonso would make an outstanding coach for us, for all the same reasons, Gerrard won't. Maybe if had of read my initial comment it would have saved you typing out all that drivel since I never once put Alonso name down as a desired manager, I just said of the high profile players I would trust him more than others. Gerrard is not the only high profile manager to get a job with no experience in recent times He also wasnt an elite midfielder hence why he never played centre midfield in his prime but thats for another topic since its like North Korea and our manager was the greatest player ever and probably the greatest manager ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAN Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Dante_Lockhart said: I'd rather be a highly thought of Ass Man at Villa than manage QPR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 Huh, reports yesterday said he wasn't leaving Villa... Anyhow, not too fussed about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: He also wasnt an elite midfielder hence why he never played centre midfield in his prime 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2022 Shit, two preseasons in a row our head coach loses their historical right hand man. Beale is very highly thought of, massive appointment now for Gerrard now to replace him. Especially if it was true that shape and tactics were down to Beale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, romavillan said: Shit, two preseasons in a row our head coach loses their historical right hand man. Beale is very highly thought of, massive appointment now for Gerrard now to replace him. Especially if it was true that shape and tactics were down to Beale. But hasn't most folks arguments been that shape and tactics we're shite. Surely this would be good for us then. I really can't keep up with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Herman22 said: There is no doubt SG will be devastated to lose him. He always said Beale was the hand on ‘coach’ and that he’s need ri work in football for 20years to have as much experience as him. We have to recruit well here! I foresee more excuses if we’re struggling in 11th or 12th again next season. Had enough of it. If Gerrard can’t step up without Beale he’ll be out. He didn’t exactly do a great job even with Beale there for 6 months last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: I foresee more excuses if we’re struggling in 11th or 12th again next season. Had enough of it. If Gerrard can’t step up without Beale he’ll be out. He didn’t exactly do a great job even with Beale there for 6 months last season. Well, he should be...but that would be a failure for Purslow as well so I imagine he'll be willing to give as many excuses as necessary. Hopefully we click on the pitch, get some width in our attacking play and are sat around the top 8 all season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didiersix Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Xabi Alonso seems to be very well spoken about at Real Sociedad... did a good job over his three years there with the B team. He is going to be linked with a million jobs - have already seen speculation about Club Brugge, Sevilla, Cadiz... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) It's all a bit concerning tbh. By all accounts Beale is exceptional as a coach, the Rangers fans I know swear he was the bigger loss rather than Gerrard himself but then I think there were a few sour grapes in there maybe too as it was just after they had left for Villa Park! Obviously we need a top notch replacement rather quickly as this may even affect the type of players we need to sign. Edited May 31, 2022 by danceoftheshamen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 Chatter on Le Twit about Xabi Alonso as Beale's replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Xabi Alonso follows us on Instagram - let the rumour mill go wild 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, maqroll said: Chatter on Le Twit about Xabi Alonso as Beale's replacement. He'll never have a belly like Beale though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, CarryOnVilla said: You are literally putting graphs in a monkeys face with me. 59 minutes ago, Gompedyret said: I have absolutely no idea what it means, but insane stuff like that is why I love the English language. I think it was certainly a string of English words but probably doesn't qualify as actual use of the English Language. Also, a perfect example of the complete misuse of the term "literally" in modern day discourse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, briny_ear said: I think it was certainly a string of English words but probably doesn't qualify as actual use of the English Language. Also, a perfect example of the complete misuse of the term "literally" in modern day discourse. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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