Steven Gerrard

[Tom13]

6 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

It's pretty obvious the players are not good enough and aren't listening to the manager.

He said it or alluded to it in his first few interviews, players need to learn and listen. Some haven't listened behind closed-doors and now he's picking them up on it, hence we know a few will be out in the summer.

Wonder if he's told McGinn to stop wasting good situations with his aimless floating balls, and if he has, he hasn't listened, yet he continues to play. And if he hasn't told him...well...

I'm being very specific but you know what I'm getting at. I'm not sure what he's telling them are genius solutions.

[Delphinho123]

8 hours ago, Tomaszk said:

Genuinely wonder how many he could lose and keep his job.

You can't lose 6/7/8 games in a row and expect to be allowed to stay and spend hundreds of millions.

We've got some easier games coming up so I would think some points would come from somewhere...

This is true.

Gerrard and the club know the season is over. Everybody within the club and even the fans now, just want this season to be over. 

But. It isn’t. And it’s getting more embarrassing by the week. I’m sure Purslow is sweating more than most because he knows he has a horrible decision to make if we don’t start at least drawing games. 

As you rightly say, no manager can be allowed to lose 5/6/7 games in a row without serious scrutiny. Especially one with a such an expensively assembled squad.

I want Gerrard to succeed but the club is going to be in a massively awkward position if we don’t start improving.

[DCJonah]

Looking at the league table again I question why we jumped at the chance to get Gerrard.

Compared to Smith, he's had a match fit Buendia, the opportunity to play Ings more and was able to sign two top class players in January. 

And there's basically no improvement. 

I seriously hope he does something amazing in the window this summer and shoots us into that top half. 

[DCJonah]

21 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

This is true.

Gerrard and the club know the season is over. Everybody within the club and even the fans now, just want this season to be over. 

But. It isn’t. And it’s getting more embarrassing by the week. I’m sure Purslow is sweating more than most because he knows he has a horrible decision to make if we don’t start at least drawing games. 

As you rightly say, no manager can be allowed to lose 5/6/7 games in a row without serious scrutiny. Especially one with a such an expensively assembled squad.

I want Gerrard to succeed but the club is going to be in a massively awkward position if we don’t start improving.

If everything Smith had done didn't earn the right to try and turn things around after 5 losses, I'm not sure what Gerrards history of achievements is that means he doesn't get questioned about it.

[Delphinho123]

20 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

If everything Smith had done didn't earn the right to try and turn things around after 5 losses, I'm not sure what Gerrards history of achievements is that means he doesn't get questioned about it.

I agree. The only difference is Gerrard being fairly new to the job still. That might be his get out of jail card.

I wonder how much the Coutinho situation affects Gerrards position..

Edited April 18, 2022 by Delphinho123

[WallisFrizz]

24 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

This is true.

Gerrard and the club know the season is over. Everybody within the club and even the fans now, just want this season to be over. 

But. It isn’t. And it’s getting more embarrassing by the week. I’m sure Purslow is sweating more than most because he knows he has a horrible decision to make if we don’t start at least drawing games. 

As you rightly say, no manager can be allowed to lose 5/6/7 games in a row without serious scrutiny. Especially one with a such an expensively assembled squad.

I want Gerrard to succeed but the club is going to be in a massively awkward position if we don’t start improving.

That’s part of the problem, isn’t it. Mentally the players downed tools in feb, which was way too early. But Gerrard did too to a degree. I think they all thought theyd coast along mid table until the end of the season and Gerrard could go spending. The failure to value this last third of the season (collectively not just SG) means we have become a bit of a laughing stock and we might have to reassess all our summer plans (which might not be the worst thing if we are forced into spending smarter not just big and we maybe lower our expectations and next season is a slow burn).

[sne]

Just now, Villarocker said:

Gerrard has a record of winning 1 title, albeit at a lower level. 

 

 

[Zatman]

12 minutes ago, Villarocker said:

Gerrard has a record of winning titles, albeit at a lower level. 

One trophy out of 9 for Rangers, its pretty poor actually 

[Demitri_C]

8 minutes ago, Zatman said:

One trophy out of 9 for Rangers, its pretty poor actually 

But the one he did win was impressive one 

[Zatman]

1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

But the one he did win was impressive one 

Which Neil Lennon and Ronny Deila have won recently. No matter the circumstances of the past, one trophy for a team like Rangers isnt great form over 3 years.

St Johnstone won more silverware on Scotland than Rangers in his time there. Would be uproar if that manager came in 

[jim]

57 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Which Neil Lennon and Ronny Deila have won recently. No matter the circumstances of the past, one trophy for a team like Rangers isnt great form over 3 years.

St Johnstone won more silverware on Scotland than Rangers in his time there. Would be uproar if that manager came in 

Conveniently ignoring they were a joke when he took over and still very much rebuilding after years of Celtic domination. 

He stopped Celtic winning 10 in a row going unbeaten to boot. No mean feat in any league.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

1 hour ago, Demitri_C said:

But the one he did win was impressive one 

Rangers fans and Celtic fans think it was a massive achievement, but we do not...

We should probs pass on the message of how poor his achievements were in reality, to them.

 

[Zatman]

11 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Rangers fans and Celtic fans think it was a massive achievement, but we do not...

We should probs pass on the message of how poor his achievements were in reality, to them.

 

Its an ok achievement in a  2 horse league, one is happy they won and the other calls it massive as if to indicate the league they won under Neil Lennon was important.

Its hardly Claudio Ranieri winning the Premier League in terms of achievement. If he had of won the league in his first season or a treble which in Scotland isnt the greatest achievement then it would be called a good run

[Davkaus]

For a less tired argument, does pineapple belong on a pizza?

[sne]

1 minute ago, Davkaus said:

For a less tired argument, does pineapple belong on a pizza?

Only in Scotland

[Zatman]

8 minutes ago, sne said:

Only in Scotland

Deep fried pineapple pizza

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

21 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

For a less tired argument, does pineapple belong on a pizza?

Edited April 18, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[AshVilla]

34 minutes ago, sne said:

Only in Scotland

Nevermind

Bindunne

Edited April 18, 2022 by AshVilla

[DaveAV1]

35 minutes ago, jim said:

Conveniently ignoring they were a joke when he took over and still very much rebuilding after years of Celtic domination. 

He stopped Celtic winning 10 in a row going unbeaten to boot. No mean feat in any league.

His achievement of turning round a huge oil tanker shouldn’t be underestimated, neither should the time it took to achieve it. But we’re Villa and have spent a fortune, so we surely are entitled to demand better? This may be the modern thinking in this entitled world but that’s still not how things always work. 
 

Despite colossal spending Man U, for them, are massively underperforming and are yet to actually nail down a manager after how long? We have still won The European Cup more times than, Man City, Arsenal and Spurs. In fact in Spurs case we’ve won the league more recently than they have. 
 

I don’t know if SG can take us forward or not, but I’m pretty sure it takes time no matter who the manager is and how much money is spent. Many people on various social media platforms, demanded the removal of David Moyes from WestHam, a couple of summers ago. If he’d been released and we’d appointed him, you’d hear the screams from here in outer space. Now he’s got managerial property. 
 

Gerrard may or may not click for us. All those years ago an unfashionable journey man called Saunders walked through the gates. He wasn’t serenaded at the time and he was often quite a divisive character. When he sold Andy Gray, by choice and replaced him with another journeyman called Peter Withe, could you imagine the reaction on here? Now we maybe about to name a stand after him.

It may be easy on a keyboard, but success takes a lot of time and hard work. A bit of luck never does any harm either. 

[hippo]

29 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

For a less tired argument, does pineapple belong on a pizza?

Not anymore. It used to be the thing - but modern pizza makers have moved on and its use has widely discredited.

You don't need to wait for expensive pineapples to arrive in the summer - a good pineapple maker get the best out of what he has 

And don't get me started on those narrow pizzas - it will never work.