Made In Aston Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 The worst part of this sorry Gerrard affair is that he might make it to 1000 pages on VT before he is sacked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: This is how he set up our team yesterday: But you know, he lashed one in top bins once in Istanbul so surely he knows what he's doing. I just can’t get over this. Is this actually genuine?! Sort of thing somebody would mock up for a laugh. Issue is, I have a feeling it is legit and how Gerrard set us up. Why the **** is he still in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Does make me laugh people claiming people who want him out are just jumping on the bandwagon. Like Steven hasn't given us about a thousand reasons to want him out by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Joshie2000 said: the majority of this team were at villa before SG, and could play smiths tactics Ever heard of Occam’s Razor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted August 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2022 Gerrard and Purslow at the next meeting to NSWE 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 hours ago, sidcow said: If you can't smuggle in a whole cabbage can I recommend a handful of Brussels Sprouts. Or micro cabbages as I like to call them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Than what is, Gerrard karate kicks a fan?? Give him a break, he's learning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11158003/Why-knives-sharpened-Steven-Gerrard-Aston-Villa.html Quote Why the knives are being sharpened for Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa: The loss of his trusted No 2 was a huge blow, a change in transfer strategy has been risky and his bitter fallout with Tyrone Mings has raised eyebrows Steven Gerrard is facing mounting pressure in the Aston Villa dugout The Villans have picked up just three points in four Premier League games A rocky relationship with Tyrone Mings kick-started their tough run Their risky recruitment this summer is another reason for growing concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 To much rumblings and noise within the club should be kept in house sounds like a toxic dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Why the knives are being sharpened for Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa | Daily Mail Online Quote Why the knives are being sharpened for Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa: The loss of his trusted No 2 was a huge blow, a change in transfer strategy has been risky and his bitter fallout with Tyrone Mings has raised eyebrows Steven Gerrard is facing mounting pressure in the Aston Villa dugout The Villans have picked up just three points in four Premier League games A rocky relationship with Tyrone Mings kick-started their tough run Their risky recruitment this summer is another reason for growing concerns Steven Gerrard is under growing pressure at Aston Villa following a difficult start to the season that has seen them lose three of their opening four matches. The 42-year-old has endured a tough start to the 2022-23 Premier League campaign, as Villans sitting 15th in the table with just three points to their name. And after Gerrard was booed off after Sunday’s home defeat by West Ham, Sportsmail has looked at the issues that have thrust his future into the spotlight. The loss of trusted assistant Michael Beale, who took the manager’s job at QPR over the summer, was a huge blow .more on link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 50 minutes ago, Villa87 said: I just can’t get over this. Is this actually genuine?! Sort of thing somebody would mock up for a laugh. Issue is, I have a feeling it is legit and how Gerrard set us up. Why the **** is he still in a job. It is our average position chart. It’s an average of all individual player events. How we ended up like that I do not know, and I don’t think even Gerrard knows. But do understand it is an average of each players co-ordinates for on the ball events. It’s not our formation or the totality of our shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Why the knives are being sharpened for Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa | Daily Mail Online Why the knives are being sharpened for Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa: The loss of his trusted No 2 was a huge blow, a change in transfer strategy has been risky and his bitter fallout with Tyrone Mings has raised eyebrows Steven Gerrard is facing mounting pressure in the Aston Villa dugout The Villans have picked up just three points in four Premier League games A rocky relationship with Tyrone Mings kick-started their tough run Their risky recruitment this summer is another reason for growing concerns Steven Gerrard is under growing pressure at Aston Villa following a difficult start to the season that has seen them lose three of their opening four matches. The 42-year-old has endured a tough start to the 2022-23 Premier League campaign, as Villans sitting 15th in the table with just three points to their name. And after Gerrard was booed off after Sunday’s home defeat by West Ham, Sportsmail has looked at the issues that have thrust his future into the spotlight. The loss of trusted assistant Michael Beale, who took the manager’s job at QPR over the summer, was a huge blow. Widely recognised as one of the most innovative young coaches in Britain, Beale’s day-to-day influence should not be underestimated. ‘He’s the brains of the operation,’ said one source. The pair propelled Rangers to the top of Scottish football, culminating in the club’s first title in 10 years in 2021. Beale took charge of planning and implementing training sessions as Gerrard oversaw the operation much like a traditional manager would. Beale’s influence at the club’s Bodymoor Heath HQ is sorely missed, with many believing his departure is a key factor behind the club’s difficult start. Beale’s replacement Neil Critchley arrived from Blackpool with his own burgeoning reputation. But his impact was stunted by the fact that he could not travel on the club’s pre-season tour of Australia due to passport issues. Critchley was still able to speak to Gerrard on Zoom calls, while he was sent recordings of training sessions to watch. Nevertheless, his absence during such a crucial period was hardly ideal. MERCILESS WITH MINGS Plenty has been made of Gerrard’s relationship with Tyrone Mings. The manager’s decision to strip the England defender of the captaincy days before the start of the season certainly raised eyebrows. Ultimately, it was Gerrard’s call and he will live or die by it. However, the timing was odd. Why not do it earlier in the summer when it would have created less fuss? That way, by the time the season began, it would have been old news. Perhaps something occurred during pre-season that pushed Gerrard into the call. Being stripped of the armband is not believed to have come as a major surprise to Mings, who is said to have long suspected that his boss may not be totally sold on him. But then came Gerrard’s thinly-veiled public dig after he dropped him for the opening day defeat by Bournemouth. ‘When Tyrone is back at his best and looks me in the eye and shows he is ready to play, he will get opportunities,’ said Gerrard, much to the squad’s surprise. As it turned out, Mings started against Everton the following week — the club’s only Premier League win so far. Gerrard’s handling of it has been questioned externally with Villa legend Paul McGrath among those to have taken the defender’s side. Internally, such episodes can have implications in the dressing room, particularly when it involves someone as influential as Mings. You wonder how certain players feel about their manager publicly flexing his muscles in such a way. Could it be them next? QUELLING THE FANS' FURY Turning around the growing disquiet among fans will be key to Gerrard’s future. The knives are being sharpened — the boos that echoed round Villa Park on Sunday indicative of a growing sense that Gerrard is not the man to propel Villa to its former glories. Results and performances will ultimately dictate whether Gerrard can win over the doubters. His aura and status comes with its benefits, particularly with regard to the club’s global profile. But perhaps part of the reason why some fans are not taking to Gerrard is the fact he does not have historic links to the club. John Gregory, who played for the club, and Dean Smith, who supported them from childhood, were both given significantly more leeway than other managers. Villa fans are particularly fond of their own. The expectation among them is massive. Traditionally, they are one of English football’s giants. Gerrard must find a way to balance those expectations with the modern-day reality that Villa are no longer the force they were. RISKY RECRUITMENT Gerrard has been backed in the transfer market since his arrival in November. Philippe Coutinho, Lucas Digne and Diego Carlos have been signed for combined fees of close to £70million. The trio are all 29 or over, meaning there is unlikely to be much of a sell-on fee. Villa and Gerrard are hoping for instant success. That strategy is in contrast to Smith’s era when the likes of Mings, Matt Targett, Ezri Konsa, Douglas Luiz, Ollie Watkins and Emi Buendia were signed in their mid-20s. Gerrard’s arrival appears to have heralded a change in transfer policy. So far, the signings he has made are not proving value for money. That will not sit well at the top of the club. BACKING IN BOARDROOM Aston Villa chief executive Christian Purslow is fully invested in making Gerrard’s appointment a success. He nominated the former Rangers boss as Smith’s successor and executed the entire plan. Purslow has as much riding on Gerrard turning it around as the manager himself. So with that in mind, Gerrard is under no immediate danger. But the numbers do not lie. Sunday’s loss against West Ham was Villa’s 13th in the last 25 matches and they have won just seven of those. With league leaders Arsenal up next tomorrow before champions Manchester City on Saturday, the prospect of improving that sequence appears small. Would two further defeats change the course of Gerrard’s future? You would imagine he would continue to have Purslow’s backing in that scenario. The real question is whether the club’s owners Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens — who have a net worth of more than £10.5billion — will be as supportive? As for Gerrard himself, would he shirk this challenge? No chance. So he read VillaTalk and wrote a fluff piece? Why even give it air. We know it’s dire, we don’t need more journalists lies with little in form of sources that confirm what we have speculated on for weeks. Gutter journalism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, daft said: So he read VillaTalk and wrote a fluff piece? Why even give it air. We know it’s dire, we don’t need more journalists lies with little in form of sources that confirm what we have speculated on for weeks. Gutter journalism. except everything he has wrote is correct, your hatred towards journalists is blinkering your view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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daft Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: except everything he has wrote is correct, your hatred towards journalists is blinkering your view Yes, correct in the sense that he could have copy pasted that from here. Not even one of the usual bollox like ‘according to people familiar with Tyrone Mings thinking’. it just doesn’t add anything we haven’t already suspected or speculated on, and it certainly confirms absolutely nothing. it’s a rotten piece, phoned in. Even worse than Villa’s defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11158003/Why-knives-sharpened-Steven-Gerrard-Aston-Villa.html My takeaway from that is CP is backing him as his ass is on the line for it as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Didn't Gerrard say once, he wish he could be half the coach Beale is. Don't bode well to how good a coach Gerrard really is. Says he knows **** all without Beale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Didn't Gerrard say once, he wish he could be half the coach Beale is. Don't bode well to how good a coach Gerrard really is. Says he knows **** all without Beale. I think it depends. A good leader gets good people together, and make things work. At this point, Gerrard doesn’t come across as a good leader, things are shit, and I quite frankly don’t trust Gerrard on Beale. We were shit then too, and he’s doing kinda’ shit on his own as well, isn’t he? Then again being half the coach compared to Gerrard isn’t worth much in the eye of the beholder right now, is it? Edited August 29, 2022 by daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Lange’s role and hand in matters is understated IMO. His team will be collating thousands of data points daily in training & match day to be analysed and assessed and used accordingly. They’ll IMO be certain red flag data points which will be used to judge both paler and manager performance. I think the one major saving grace for Gerrard is the fact Beale left, Critchley’s only just joined and he’s gunna be given a period of grace perhaps to be judged and assessed fairly. I think that he is gunna be rightly under untenable pressure though if we get spanked by Arsenals & Citeh as for me too many red flags currently that sadly cannot be ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 no more ins and outs on the player front until Gerard has gone. We have to limit the damage this clown is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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