Vive_La_Villa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Willard said: Apparently we have the 4th highest possession in the league and that is with us feeling like we rush possession. We lack so much width in our current formation. I genuinely think we'd be better playing 442 but feel like we are shoe horning Coutinho/Buendia That’s actually quite encouraging. If we can improve our play without the ball we could start to control games better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 To digress a little… I’d like to ask: What are people’s views or experience with Gerrard at the ground? How much of a positive connection and relationship do you feel there is between the manager and fans? Or is there a disconnect and “emotional detachment”? Do you feel he has endeared himself to the fans or is there a distance? I’d there a link or bond there? How’s the atmosphere? Even looking back to the tail end of last season… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: How much of a positive connection and relationship do you feel there is between the manager and fans? Or is there a disconnect and “emotional detachment”? Do you feel he has endeared himself to the fans or is there a distance? I’d there a link or bond there? How’s the atmosphere? Even looking back to the tail end of last season… Well my family and a couple of friends almost didn’t renew our season tickets because mostly of him and the football. I knew others at the ground who are also long term season ticket holders that questioned renewing, if that answers your question. Other reasons as I’ve mentioned before included ticket price rises and transportation issues but those could be forgotten somewhat if the football on the pitch was right. We renewed because our love for the club though but it was a close call. edit: the atmosphere, it’s hard to say, it’s been nervous down there before Gerrard…basically 18 months of nervousness watching games, which impacts the atmosphere. Edited August 25, 2022 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jas10 said: To digress a little… I’d like to ask: What are people’s views or experience with Gerrard at the ground? How much of a positive connection and relationship do you feel there is between the manager and fans? Or is there a disconnect and “emotional detachment”? Do you feel he has endeared himself to the fans or is there a distance? I’d there a link or bond there? How’s the atmosphere? Even looking back to the tail end of last season… I haven’t been this season yet but last season I felt the atmosphere was reactive to what was going on on the pitch and don’t think it would have mattered who the manager was. We win and everyone loves Gerrard. We lose and it’s the opposite. Tbf it’s fairly quiet where I sit. Its probably just me but I can’t really remember a bond with Smith either. Again it was just reactions to how we played. Now this season I’m expecting things to be different and a lot more hostility to the manager when things aren’t going well. Edited August 25, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jas10 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Seriously struggling to see where people are getting any positivity, belief or encouragement from… Just look at the evidence. But each to their own… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Seriously struggling to see where people are getting any positivity, belief or encouragement from… Just look at the evidence. But each to their own… I’m struggling to see where there is any positivity, belief or encouragement from fans. Fans just defended the attacks against Gerrard after the Bolton game. Beyond that from what I can see everyone thinks things are pretty poor. Edited August 25, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Seriously struggling to see where people are getting any positivity, belief or encouragement from… Just look at the evidence. But each to their own… Because everything at the club aside from on the pitch is brilliant, that’s my ray of hope. Ditch this poor manager, get in a great coach and let’s see what happens. We are set up everywhere else to progress… Edited August 25, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Seriously struggling to see where people are getting any positivity, belief or encouragement from… Think it's literal blind optimism at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Because everything at the club aside from on the pitch is brilliant, that’s my ray of hope. Ditch this poor manager, get in a great coach and let’s see what happens. We are set up everywhere else to progress… I have the same view. Sort it out on the pitch and we will thrive - the only problem is the manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’m struggling to see where there is any positivity, belief or encouragement from fans. Fans just defended the attacks against Gerrard after the Bolton game. Beyond that from what I can see everyone things things are pretty poor. Ok then… I’m struggling to see how people can continue to defend this manager… “How do you like them apples?” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Seriously struggling to see where people are getting any positivity, belief or encouragement from… Just look at the evidence. But each to their own… Thoughts on the data I've posted comparing our PL era managers? (Should say this a question for those posting more negatively about Gerrard rather than us specifically, as most that have engaged with it seem to already be more positive or at least on the fence about Gerrard) Edited August 25, 2022 by tomsky_11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 IMHO,bottom half finish with SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Seriously struggling to see where people are getting any positivity, belief or encouragement from… Just look at the evidence. But each to their own… It’s not so much belief or encouragement, it’s just that people deal with their emotions differently. You seem to thrive on venting your frustrations (this is not an insult, just an observation). You like to do it over and over, I guess it’s like therapy for you. Others prefer to look on the bright side and see the positives, even if they are small and insignificant. Just different coping mechanisms as we’re all pretty invested in this thing that we have no control over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted August 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, WallisFrizz said: It’s not so much belief or encouragement, it’s just that people deal with their emotions differently. You seem to thrive on venting your frustrations (this is not an insult, just an observation). You like to do it over and over, I guess it’s like therapy for you. Others prefer to look on the bright side and see the positives, even if they are small and insignificant. Just different coping mechanisms as we’re all pretty invested in this thing that we have no control over. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, WallisFrizz said: It’s not so much belief or encouragement, it’s just that people deal with their emotions differently. You seem to thrive on venting your frustrations (this is not an insult, just an observation). You like to do it over and over, I guess it’s like therapy for you. Others prefer to look on the bright side and see the positives, even if they are small and insignificant. Just different coping mechanisms as we’re all pretty invested in this thing that we have no control over. Thanks for putting it politely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Jas10 said: Thanks for putting it politely I did reword it several times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, WallisFrizz said: It’s not so much belief or encouragement, it’s just that people deal with their emotions differently. You seem to thrive on venting your frustrations (this is not an insult, just an observation). You like to do it over and over, I guess it’s like therapy for you. Others prefer to look on the bright side and see the positives, even if they are small and insignificant. Just different coping mechanisms as we’re all pretty invested in this thing that we have no control over. That’s me! I just can’t be upset and negative about things. Especially when going to the game. It is just blind hope but I need it!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: Thoughts on the data I've posted comparing our PL era managers? (Should say this a question for those posting more negatively about Gerrard rather than us specifically, as most that have engaged with it seem to already be more positive or at least on the fence about Gerrard) I’ll give it a proper look mate but I’m more concerned by what I’ve been watching and the way we have been going… Different times, different context and what not… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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