The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jas10 said: The fact that the account uses an unrelated court appearance from years ago to bash Gerrard is really embarrassing. It has nothing to do with the situation now. Just blind hatred for the man. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Chucked away the guy that brought the fan base and the club back together after years and years of toxicity. And for things to just get worse. Not surprised fans will start to feel like that. It's not because Smith was (rightly) sacked, it's because Gerrard is making a complete hash of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Gerrard has lost 46.6% of his 30 games in charge. It’s not good enough. I equally have no time for people who are putting false info out there - he’s not lost more than 50% of the games in charge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mantis said: It's not because Smith was (rightly) sacked, it's because Gerrard is making a complete hash of things. Agree it was time for Smith to go. If you told me the replacement was Gerrard I'd have said we'll have to ride this out with Smith. Can't do something as silly as that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: That’s because you no that ain’t happening. Not my fault. Having 13 points from 8 games is acceptable. Why should my standards be lower when the manager is Mr High Standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Smith lost 56% of his 87 PL matches for us and was rightly sacked. But I don’t see these so-called objective stats pages treating him as they do with Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Dan Rolinson from Claret and Blue. "I don't know if it's just me, but I feel very disengaged with the club at the moment" I have been like this for months. Had Zero excitement for this season, didnt even bother doing a fantasy football team the enthusiasm has been crushed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted August 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Smith lost 56% of his 87 PL matches for us and was rightly sacked. But I don’t see these so-called objective stats pages treating him as they do with Gerrard. You know fully well unless your trolling its complete different context to the reigns Why not mention the VAR was turned off and Covid saved us from going down 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: I have been like this for months. Had Zero excitement for this season, didnt even bother doing a fantasy football team the enthusiasm has been crushed I just recently came back on here after feeling like that for YEARS. This kinda' sucks. But I've been here since 2004. I've seen us VT:ers shit the bed so many times now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Teale's 'tache said: I really like Pete and his channel and he makes many good points in this video, but he's being quite selective here. He doesn't mention the complete lack of progress, the previous season of poor performances, and if you are going to ask for patience and to give him time then you need to balance that with reasons to do so, but the lack of any discernible positives to how we are playing right now makes that pretty much impossible. I don't buy the financial argument either, yes it costs money to pay him off and get the next guy in, but it's not going to be anywhere near the £25m we seemed happy to chuck at Watford for a player in a position we hardly need. Keeping a bad manager just because it costs some money to change would be the worst decision financially. Qualifying for Europe would bring huge money, every place in the league table is worth 2m, a relegation would cost 100s of millions. Not to mention the damage to the brand by constant underperforming, losing potential sponsor deals et cetera. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: You know fully well unless your trolling its complete different context to the reigns Why not mention the VAR was turned off and Covid saved us from going down And you know full well that these accounts are doing the exact same thing - falsely trying to claim he’s got a worse record than Garde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Smith lost 56% of his 87 PL matches for us and was rightly sacked. But I don’t see these so-called objective stats pages treating him as they do with Gerrard. Surely not serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, Jas10 said: What is the significance of the start date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Mantis said: It's not because Smith was (rightly) sacked, it's because Gerrard is making a complete hash of things. Combination of both. If Gerrard replaced a Bruce or Mcleish I doubt the feeling of connection with the club would change. But he replaced a popular manager who brought the club back and rebuilt that positivity. And it feels now like that was all for nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Surely not serious. I’m talking about this it’s full of false stats and using an unrelated photo from a time Gerrard appeared in court. That’s not healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Different perspective from Pete " Can we...just...calm the f*ck down ? We're 3 weeks into a new season, and it's gone from zero to utter hysteria in 3 match days " etc . Very good and balanced watch to be fair, also goes a little into Dean Smith, the ramifications of sacking a Manager. Media and Fan noise in the UK , Purslow, the board etc. Also has a little go at people questioning the owners. I really like this channel and he makes some good points. But, I don't agree with just sticking with something because you're supposed to give it time. But he does raise an interesting point. We're so financially invested in this project it makes it hard to walk away. Makes me think of poker when you're so committed with betting that you have to just see it through instead of doing the sensible thing of folding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: I’m talking about this it’s full of false stats and using an unrelated photo from a time Gerrard appeared in court. That’s not healthy. Oh I agree. I thought you were saying there should have been these things for Smiths record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, The_Steve said: The fact that the account uses an unrelated court appearance from years ago to bash Gerrard is really embarrassing. It has nothing to do with the situation now. Just blind hatred for the man. Indeed, I'm sorry but this is getting ridiculous. I can fully understand wanting him to go, but this current mood is just toxic, and quite frankly sick. Worst part of social media and the Internet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Oh I agree. I thought you were saying there should have been these things for Smiths record. Apologies if my initial post wasn’t clear. I’m just very tired of this toxicity. None of us are happy and the performances just far below what we expect. People with agendas aren’t helping stuff by putting false information out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I know many won't agree but I genuinely think the toxicity has come quick because of who he replaced. Smith was a very popular manager. There was always a small group on here that didn't like him but that was not replicated at Villa Park and around the fan base. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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