IrishVilla10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, HKP90 said: And you would prefer that over winning 3 and drawing two. Correct? Correct. I’m finished with Gerrard. Any improvements we might see are going to be the work of critchley. How long can that model work for? It sounds crazy I know, but it’s been nearly a year of terrible football. Bad team selections, a terrible system, bad treatment of key players, non existent in game management, clear favouritism, the experiment is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, DCJonah said: They can't say anything else really. It doesn't mean much . Agree they have to say that. But I fear it could quickly come to a point where a huge majority of fans want Gerrard out, and Purslow surprise people with just how much time SG will be given to hopefully turn things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, tomsky_11 said: Leicester and West Ham with where they are at should be winnable, along with Saints at home. Arsenal and City obvs expect defeats, but pretty much all our games under Gerrard against top sides have been tight. Plus we are unlikely to get done on the counter like Palace. VAR probably still screw us though. The issue is any manager with half a brain will know how to beat us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Gerrard hasn't even had a season yet. Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Funny thing is the “brains” Of his operation at QPR isn’t doing well either. QPR are almost as much as an underachieving club as us. Difficult job to take on. I am just hoping Gerrard falls onto a successful line up by accident. We will probably look better on Tuesday with the reserve line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, VillaParkAvenue said: Agree they have to say that. But I fear it could quickly come to a point where a huge majority of fans want Gerrard out, and Purslow surprise people with just how much time SG will be given to hopefully turn things around. I think it's wrong but I'll think he'll get much more rope than Smith did. Unless we are seriously in danger of going down say February/March time I can see them giving him loads of time even if we are no where near the top half. Purslow has decided he's the man to take us a step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, IrishVilla10 said: The issue is any manager with half a brain will know how to beat us Ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 He's going to get until the world cup at least and most likely if we are 15th or better he'll be given until the end of the season where a decision would be made if we are still in 14th/15th region. He's not in the job a year yet and a change of manager so quickly just seems rash especially if the players are still with him and working hard to learn and improve to the new style. Two wins against Bolton and West Ham and things look better again. We're an up and down team still, win one or two and lose a few. I don't think he's anywhere near being sacked and we need to just hope he and his team get us playing. We looked good against Everton up until they scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Correct. I’m finished with Gerrard. Any improvements we might see are going to be the work of critchley. How long can that model work for? It sounds crazy I know, but it’s been nearly a year of terrible football. Bad team selections, a terrible system, bad treatment of key players, non existent in game management, clear favouritism, the experiment is done. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Gerrard hasn't even had a season yet. Football Agree to some extent but when you look at how other clubs have improved in a similar period or even shorter, and the investment and backing he's had, it's no surprise people are getting fed up. For me, time has to be earned. Giving a manager time isn't something that will lead to success. There has to be something to show that more investment in time will pay off. There's just nothing there to suggest it will at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, jim said: Wow Bit like how you felt 12 months into Dean's run as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, bobzy said: Gerrard hasn't even had a season yet. Football Thank McGrath for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Correct. I’m finished with Gerrard. Any improvements we might see are going to be the work of critchley. How long can that model work for? It sounds crazy I know, but it’s been nearly a year of terrible football. Bad team selections, a terrible system, bad treatment of key players, non existent in game management, clear favouritism, the experiment is done. Are we just making stuff up now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, AshVilla said: I've got mine ready for Sunday. If you’ve got a tesco clubcard, get an extra 25 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, jim said: Wow Would be interested in hearing what you disagree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, DCJonah said: I think it's wrong but I'll think he'll get much more rope than Smith did. 7 points from from our next 8, which are WHU ars MNC lei SOU lee for CHE, puts him with same record as Smith last season. Can't see him not getting sacked at that point or close to it. But also don't expect anything like as bad a return from those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, duke313 said: Are we just making stuff up now? What am I making up? We’ve constantly heard from Gerrard how we want to play, we even had the pre season he needed. We’re still the same. We’ve now tried to sign a right winger. Have you seen anything to suggest Gerrard is tactically able? Or is it the work of Michael beale and Neil critchley he relies on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 Annnd I'm out. Good luck folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: 7 points from from our next 8, which are WHU ars MNC lei SOU lee for CHE, puts him with same record as Smith last season. Can't see him not getting sacked at that point or close to it. But also don't expect anything like as bad a return from those games. I'd be surprised if we aren't on around 7 pts from those games. If we don't beat West Ham Saturday then I don't see where we get those 7 pts from. I also don't think he'd be sacked if we match those points totals. Edited August 22, 2022 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, HKP90 said: And that's cool, as I said I have no truck with reasonable opinions that have been formed on the basis of actual events and facts. Another poster on this thread (page 6) said that they hope that SG loses the first 5 games in charge and gets sacked. If that person tells me 'I told you so', I'm just not having it. My guess is that the people who have taken time to consider their opinions, such as yourself, are not going to be the ones saying 'I told you so'. I would never want to align myself with someone like that, it’s not something I’ve picked up on. I just see frustration at continual poor performances and results. There is no reason for “I told you so’s” and I have no desire to ever say that. My only desire is to see us become a successful side and my issue is that I have zero belief that that is possible under SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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