hippo Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, YLN said: Yeah he probably had a look at Gerrard's record of getting 9 points from the last 11 games of the season and thought, yeah he's the manager that will bring my career to the next level. Or maybe Gerrard told him he'd get him a ten million pound signing on fee, and that 'changed everything'. This narrative of Gerrard being a draw for players is likely nonsense, outside of the Coutinho signing obviously. I think Kamara signed because he was impressed with Johan Lange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 17 hours ago, Zatman said: this is really bizarre. he was always against Smith from the start and since Gerrard came in he is the best manager since Mourinho at Porto He could be another son of Bruce we dont know I have never once implied anything of the sort. Stop making stuff again. I didn’t like Bruce either FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 58 minutes ago, YLN said: Yeah he probably had a look at Gerrard's record of getting 9 points from the last 11 games of the season and thought, yeah he's the manager that will bring my career to the next level. Or maybe Gerrard told him he'd get him a ten million pound signing on fee, and that 'changed everything'. This narrative of Gerrard being a draw for players is likely nonsense, outside of the Coutinho signing obviously. Romano and the other chap who’s name escapes me both said Gerrard was a big factor when he signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Zatman said: If thats the case then we be fighting off Palace and Everton for players since they have big name ex midfielders as manager Palace should be attracting all the best young French players if was the case. Its obvious money talks here Arsenal and Newcastle wanted Kamara, so I'm sure Arsenal, if not defo Newcastle would have got him if it was all about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, jim said: Romano and the other chap who’s name escapes me both said Gerrard was a big factor when he signed. I do believe it was one factor but probably not the biggest. It’s a respectable answer to give in that situation, saying you signed because the money was great doesn’t sound as good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: If thats the case then we be fighting off Palace and Everton for players since they have big name ex midfielders as manager Palace should be attracting all the best young French players if was the case. Its obvious money talks here I share your worries on Gerrard overall but as I said earlier I think it’s additive - Kamara might not have come because of Gerrard but Coutinho came because of Gerrard and Digne apparently came because of Coutinho, and I can see why Kamara would be influenced by the France left back and the most expensive midfielder of all time being here, which theoretically all comes back to Gerrard… financially you have to be there of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Gerrard probably helps in some cases, but it's not as if we wouldn't be able to sign good players if he wasn't our manager. At the end of the day everything comes back to Sawiris and Edens and their money, if it wasn't for them Gerrard wouldn't be our manager in the first place to play his part in helping us attract players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, useless said: Gerrard probably helps in some cases, but it's not as if we wouldn't be able to sign good players if he wasn't our manager. At the end of the day everything comes back to Sawiris and Edens and their money, if it wasn't for them Gerrard wouldn't be our manager in the first place to play his part in helping us attract players. The money the project and the world class powerpoint maestro that is Mr Gerrard. Its a mix of the 3 that gets these deals over the line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) Only Villa fans would argue over what convinced a quality player to join us. Signs are looking so promising and exciting yet I feel we have a slightly divided fan base. It pains me. Edited May 23, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Only Villa fans would argue over what convinced a quality player to join us. Signs are looking so promising and exciting yet I feel we have a slightly divided fan base. It pains me. There's no arguing, it's just debate. To name 2, we signed a random in Bailey and Buendia with Smith in charge, admittedly Buendia being a good buy, but still a championship player. Gerrard brings in premiership Chamber's and £150 million Coutinho, with Kamara coming in this week. Coincidence, it's hard to argue. Lampard and Vieira even though top players, for me don't seem to have the profile or personality Gerrard has. Maybe this could be his success with Rangers, I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zhan_Zhuang Posted May 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2022 Listening to a European football correspondent today on the radio in respect to Kamara but they spoke at length about Steven Gerrard. Yes we are biased, blinkered and subjective in this country but in terms of global football Gerrard is a legend in the football world. His influence on getting players in to Villa is massive and not to be scoffed at! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: There's no arguing, it's just debate. To name 2, we signed a random in Bailey and Buendia with Smith in charge, admittedly Buendia being a good buy, but still a championship player. Gerrard brings in premiership Chamber's and £150 million Coutinho, with Kamara coming in this week. Coincidence, it's hard to argue. Lampard and Vieira even though top players, for me don't seem to have the profile or personality Gerrard has. Maybe this could be his success with Rangers, I'm not sure. Don't underestimate how sought after Buendia and Bailey were, we know for a fact for example that Buendia chose us over Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Listening to a European football correspondent today on the radio in respect to Kamara but they spoke at length about Steven Gerrard. Yes we are biased, blinkered and subjective in this country but in terms of global football Gerrard is a legend in the football world. His influence on getting players in to Villa is massive and not to be scoffed at! Mate he randomly pops up on a bloody CNN Hyundai World Cup advertisement here every day. He's defo.global. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Mate he randomly pops up on a bloody CNN Hyundai World Cup advertisement here every day. He's defo.global. lol Yeah, that Hyundai contract is huge and will last for at least a year. I asked a mate in advertising how much someone like SG could make from such a thing, and it sounded like he wouldn’t be depending much on his Villa salary in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 hours ago, spiezels said: This says different, Literally joined because of Gerrard, my point stands. Gerrard must have signed loads of superstars at Rangers? Obviously, yes, he's a bigger pull than Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Gerrard must have signed loads of superstars at Rangers? Obviously, yes, he's a bigger pull than Smith. True, Gerrard's way better. Edited May 23, 2022 by foreveryoung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 15 hours ago, ender4 said: Someone was saying in a different thread that Gerrard only signs old players, so here's analysis of Gerrards signing's vs the previous window before Gerrard arrived: Gerrard (outfield players only for fair comparison): Coutinho - 29 Chambers - 26 Digne - 28 Kamara - 22 Average age - 26 years old and the window before Gerrard arrived: Ings - 29 Buendia - 24 Bailey - 24 Young - 36 Average age - 28 years old. So Gerrard is actually opting for younger players! *yes, i know the comparison is flawed in many ways, not serious analysis. Wait until we sign Stig Inge Bjornebye as back up to Digne and Dominic Matteo to partner Mings at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Gerrard must have signed loads of superstars at Rangers? Obviously, yes, he's a bigger pull than Smith. So are you agreeing with me or not? Hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 12 hours ago, useless said: Gerrard probably helps in some cases, but it's not as if we wouldn't be able to sign good players if he wasn't our manager. At the end of the day everything comes back to Sawiris and Edens and their money, if it wasn't for them Gerrard wouldn't be our manager in the first place to play his part in helping us attract players. We wouldn’t have signed coutinho or Kamara if we didn’t have Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 And we wouldn't have Gerrard if it wasn't for Sawiris and Edens and their dough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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