Steven Gerrard

[paul514]

6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Still an improvement, we were going to be relegated a few weeks ago I read.

So progress is progress

We were never going to be relegated.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

Just now, paul514 said:

We were never going to be relegated.

Just messing mate. I'm just pointing out the extremes I've seen on the board. Multiple people said we were going down on the last bad run 

It's pointless for me to take anything too seriously ATM.

[TRO]

8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

You think the football we played in the first half yesterday was " miserable " ?

Even the commentators were saying " Villa have been outstanding since conceding, you would think this is a glimpse into Gerrard ball, and the way he wants to play " etc.

We have to stay with him JV.....

Individual errors, raised their ugly heads once again....The football in general at times was good.

big long balls, deep in to our area, just have us running to the **** house.

[striker]

The main issue for Villa over several seasons now is the midfield. Crying out for both a quality DM & a player who can pass. I know if the rumours are true Villa did try to buy both Prowse and Bissouma but those offers were buttons compared to the players worth.

I sincerely hope that in the summer Villa don’t make the same mistake again and expect to buy a quality midfielder for 20 odd thousand. It’s gonna take double that at least for the players mentioned and that’s where Gerrard should be spending most of the budget.

If Villa start next season with the same midfield and central defenders then Villa will be relegated under Gerrard or anyone else.

[rodders0223]

I'd like someone to highlight to him the reason why we will have to play Ashley Young, a man who can't run anymore,  a man who took a booking against Kane on a breakaway as he was on 2 minutes and still didn't back himself to keep up with him.

Someone please ask him to explain why we will now be completely **** at left back for the final few games 

[lexicon]

50 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

You were probably one of those people. Ironically, I wasn't , I actually liked Sherwood alot. Lol

He got the same treatment SG is getting now

 

If you liked Sherwood then we're definitely not going to see eye to eye here  

The worst manager I've ever seen and everything that happened in his career after has shown just how bad he is tbf.

[villan501]

For me I accept villa will lose games but when we're losing Gerrard can't think talking " This is on me " every defeat is acceptable, when he backs failing performer's by keeping them in the side.

Come the summer he will get rid of players but most importantly the squad players will probably request a move therefore weakening us long term.

Bailey,traore,hause,sanson possibly beundia have been given absolutely zero opportunities without getting benched next game.

Aston villa will possibly have lost value on Bailey,Beundia Watkins and ings none of these mentioned have done anything to suggest a profit.

Come the summer Gerrard will know he's in a tough job because due to possible dismay from squad players not getting a chance and upgrades needed I'm not confident this will happen one bit.

As always us villa followers will continue to turn up but I'm prepared for a major storm arriving regarding transfers and how we look next season.

UTV

[hippo]

44 minutes ago, TRO said:

We have to stay with him JV.....

Individual errors, raised their ugly heads once again....The football in general at times was good.

big long balls, deep in to our area, just have us running to the **** house.

I know you're a big SG fan.

But why do we' have to stay with him'  ? 

I don't know what or when the cut off point will be. But be in no doubt there is one. 

[DCJonah]

5 minutes ago, hippo said:

I know you're a big SG fan.

But why do we' have to stay with him'  ? 

I don't know what or when the cut off point will be. But be in no doubt there is one. 

Yeah, I'm interested in that.

[duke313]

6 minutes ago, hippo said:

I know you're a big SG fan.

But why do we' have to stay with him'  ? 

I don't know what or when the cut off point will be. But be in no doubt there is one. 

Because Purslow isn’t going to get rid of his man without giving him the summer window and start of next season to get it right. If we’re in same boat come October after spending big he’ll be gone.

[hippo]

Just now, duke313 said:

Because Purslow isn’t going to get rid of his man without giving him the summer window and start of next season to get it right. If we’re in same boat come October after spending big he’ll be gone.

I can live with that.

October will be here before we know it

[TRO]

2 minutes ago, hippo said:

I know you're a big SG fan.

But why do we' have to stay with him'  ? 

I don't know what or when the cut off point will be. But be in no doubt there is one. 

Well....when he gets the right players in, and doesn't have to rely on another managers 3 years attempts at building a squad, we might be in a position to make a fair appraisal.

Right now, most fans see the issues.....you can't just wave away a situation, where specialist players don't exisit.

Any manager can only do so much.

Conte is world class.....but he has players who are too....he has a squad that is balanced and had the presence of mind to bring in Bentancur and since Harry's mardy moments have passed, he too is back at his best, despite not scoring.

To be fair, We was linked with Bentancur, so it shows the club are NOW aware of our deficiencies....we just have to secure, the holes we have, and it won't improve, until we do, or play lesser teams, to pick up points.

West Ham, Arsenal, Wolves, Spurs......was always going to expose our achilles Heel......we can get away with it against some teams, but not others.

[The_Steve]

Just now, TRO said:

Well....when he gets the right players in, and doesn't have to rely on another managers 3 years attempts at building a squad, we might be in a position to make a fair appraisal.

Right now, most fans see the issues.....you can't just wave away a situation, where specialist players don't exisit.

Any manager can only do so much.

Conte is world class.....but he has players who are too....he has a squad that is balanced and had the presence of mind to bring in Bentancur and since Harry's mardy moments have passed, he too is back at his best, despite not scoring.

To be fair, We was linked with Bentancur, so it shows the club are NOW aware of our deficiencies....we just have to secure, the holes we have, and it won't improve, until we do, or play lesser teams, to pick up points.

West Ham, Arsenal, Wolves, Spurs......was always going to expose our achilles Heel......we can get away with it against some teams, but not others.

It took Moyes 5 years and a big rebuild to get it right. We have a squad that’s only really good enough for lower midtable and it shows. The rebuild is much needed. It’s very easy to write of Gerrard when we play opposition with world class strikers who score with each bite of the cherry. The second Spurs goal changed the game - on another day, Lloris another top class player doesn’t make as many good saves. 
 

The application is the problem and Gerrard recognises that. He can only get them to do so much but the players have to take accountability for their mistakes on the pitch. 
 

We’ve got some very talented young players coming through and the ambitions remain the same - all we can do now is consolidate what we have and try to finish strongly. 

[hippo]

1 minute ago, TRO said:

Well....when he gets the right players in, and doesn't have to rely on another managers 3 years attempts at building a squad, we might be in a position to make a fair appraisal.

Right now, most fans see the issues.....you can't just wave away a situation, where specialist players don't exisit.

Any manager can only do so much.

Conte is world class.....but he has players who are too....he has a squad that is balanced and had the presence of mind to bring in Bentancur and since Harry's mardy moments have passed, he too is back at his best, despite not scoring.

To be fair, We was linked with Bentancur, so it shows the club are NOW aware of our deficiencies....we just have to secure, the holes we have, and it won't improve, until we do, or play lesser teams, to pick up points.

West Ham, Arsenal, Wolves, Spurs......was always going to expose our achilles Heel......we can get away with it against some teams, but not others.

That's all well and good.

But after what now looks like being a less ruthless summer transfer window. If he isn't doing it he will get the sack.

All the excuses in the world won't save him.

[hippo]

2 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

It took Moyes 5 years and a big rebuild to get it right. We have a squad that’s only really good enough for lower midtable and it shows. The rebuild is much needed. It’s very easy to write of Gerrard when we play opposition with world class strikers who score with each bite of the cherry. The second Spurs goal changed the game - on another day, Lloris another top class player doesn’t make as many good saves. 
 

The application is the problem and Gerrard recognises that. He can only get them to do so much but the players have to take accountability for their mistakes on the pitch. 
 

We’ve got some very talented young players coming through and the ambitions remain the same - all we can do now is consolidate what we have and try to finish strongly. 

Maybe -but the summer window now looks being a CB, DCM , and a striker. 

I of those looks likely to be Joe Gomez.

That doesn't look enough to save Gerrard s ass imo.

[The_Steve]

1 minute ago, hippo said:

Maybe -but the summer window now looks being a CB, DCM , and a striker. 

I of those looks likely to be Joe Gomez.

That doesn't look enough to save Gerrard s ass imo.

He deserves a pre-season and window but it’s on him as much as Purslow - I don’t think NSWE are going to accept anything less. I pray we don’t end up with tripe like Gomez. 

[lexicon]

3 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

It took Moyes 5 years and a big rebuild to get it right. We have a squad that’s only really good enough for lower midtable and it shows. The rebuild is much needed. It’s very easy to write of Gerrard when we play opposition with world class strikers who score with each bite of the cherry. The second Spurs goal changed the game - on another day, Lloris another top class player doesn’t make as many good saves. 
 

The application is the problem and Gerrard recognises that. He can only get them to do so much but the players have to take accountability for their mistakes on the pitch. 
 

We’ve got some very talented young players coming through and the ambitions remain the same - all we can do now is consolidate what we have and try to finish strongly. 

- Disagree. We finished higher than that with a worse squad last season. Why have the goalposts been shifted for Gerrard?

He's not getting enough out of the players we have and in some cases they look to be regressing. 

Also, one of Gerrard's big criticisms was not developing young talent at Rangers. Why's that going to be different now? 

 

[DCJonah]

4 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

It took Moyes 5 years and a big rebuild to get it right. We have a squad that’s only really good enough for lower midtable and it shows. The rebuild is much needed. It’s very easy to write of Gerrard when we play opposition with world class strikers who score with each bite of the cherry. The second Spurs goal changed the game - on another day, Lloris another top class player doesn’t make as many good saves. 
 

The application is the problem and Gerrard recognises that. He can only get them to do so much but the players have to take accountability for their mistakes on the pitch. 
 

We’ve got some very talented young players coming through and the ambitions remain the same - all we can do now is consolidate what we have and try to finish strongly. 

I agree with this. But if we need to continue to rebuild the squad, why did we need Gerrard? 

A lot of the argument for removing Smith, was that this squad was capable of getting Europe or at least top half finish.

Why didn't we rebuild the squad with Smith? What's so special about Gerrard? He really hasn't done anything amazing since coming here. If it's just about spending more millions on top players then what does Gerrard bring to the table as a manager? 

 

[hippo]

Just now, The_Steve said:

He deserves a pre-season and window but it’s on him as much as Purslow - I don’t think NSWE are going to accept anything less. I pray we don’t end up with tripe like Gomez. 

Agree.

I can't see even Stevie G spinning a 5th choice Liverpool CB as a brave new world.

[Dale]

8 minutes ago, TRO said:

another managers 3 years attempts at building a squad, we might be in a position to make a fair appraisal.

No no no, the squad is the club's it isn't a manager's, we're beyond those days. Gerrard should have an influence, but not be the lead decision maker on these matters. The club has to build a squad with half an eye on the fact there is a reasonable chance we'll be after a new manager in the next 12 months. 

The club was foolish in the manager hunt as they brought in a bloke that plays a system we didn't have the personnel for. Mad as its harder to find someone that plays a formation other than 4-3-3 nowadays.