Zatman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Is there any wonder though, we're a s*** midtable team making up the numbers. As has been established on the forum there are four players at best who would make a top six team. It's futile. Of course but no harm having a go. We went there in 2020 when in the bottom 3 and they were champions elect and put in a better effort Nobody is saying go there and win but at least try too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CVByrne Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just now, foreveryoung said: I gotta say its p**** me off how Brighton, Wolves and Southampton are above us. We are a little like Tottenham, rarely play to the best of our ability. the squads mentioned are no better, they just graft for the manager every game, we are half arsed. There are poor players in our team I agree, but when this Villa team are on it, playing with pace, I have seen us close to unplayable to most teams bar the big boys, it;s just a very rare occasion. All three have managers in place for the entire season and pre season though. Brighton and Southampton have had good managers in place for years now. That makes a difference 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dale Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, TRO said: because, we haven't got the personnel to dominate possession, in the main. Look at Brendan Rogers Swansea... Absolutely bossed possession, the personnel were not particularly outstanding individually, Wigan under Martinez similar. Potter's Brighton to some degree. Our players aren't any worse than any of these. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, CVByrne said: All three have managers in place for the entire season and pre season though. Brighton and Southampton have had good managers in place for years now. That makes a difference Agree. Brighton, Wolves and Southampton stand out as smaller clubs with really good managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulC Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Zatman said: He settled for inept performance against Brentford and Leeds. This winner thing is bullshit His reaction in the last few minutes yesterday was not the sign of a winner. It was the type of attitude Sherwood had at the end These comparisons with Sherwood are a nonsense 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, PaulC said: These comparisons with Sherwood are a nonsense I hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Bit too soon to be judging him harshly imho. yeah he gave Ollie and some of the midfield one more chance after Leeds. Dropping them would have been a gamble because we played sensationally for 15 minutes against Leeds who are a wild card team. It will be fair to judge him harshly if he doesnt make changes for Watford though thats for sure. We only lost 1 nil to Newcastle but imho the performance was far worse than the scoreline suggests. Edited February 14, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, PaulC said: These comparisons with Sherwood are a nonsense Well Sherwood has a better winning start at Villa with shitter players, so Gerrard has to beat that comparison. Sherwood won 8 from his first 13 compared to Gerrards 5 Looking tactically clueless when Plan A is found out looks to be another comparison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, PaulC said: These comparisons with Sherwood are a nonsense All feels a bit forced doesn't it? Edited February 14, 2022 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Hearing a fair few changes being made for the Watford game. Gerrard not happy behind closed doors. We have to remember this is as good as his interview before the Liverpool job, whenever it comes up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Hearing a fair few changes being made for the Watford game. Gerrard not happy behind closed doors. We have to remember this is as good as his interview before the Liverpool job, whenever it comes up. He should open them then Gerrard would need to work miracles here to get the Liverpool job. I hope he gets it then! Liverpool won't be sentimental when it comes to replacing Klopp. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Not sure if already posted but this lad has nailed it. We've all heard of the Diamond formation but Gerrard has introduced the Pokeball formation, except all we're catching is a bad GD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Zatman said: Well Sherwood has a better winning start at Villa with shitter players, so Gerrard has to beat that comparison. Sherwood won 8 from his first 13 compared to Gerrards 5 Looking tactically clueless when Plan A is found out looks to be another comparison Yes and Sherwood deserves a lot of credit for keeping us up and getting us to the FA Cup final but its too soon to draw comparisons. He needs to clear out the deadwood. Edited February 14, 2022 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes and Sherwood deserves a lot of credit for keeping us up and getting us to the FA Cup final but its too soon to draw comparisons. He needs to clear out the deadwood. How much deadwood do we really have? Everyone who's surplus to requirements is currently out on loan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Not sure if already posted but this lad has nailed it. We've all heard of the Diamond formation but Gerrard has introduced the Pokeball formation, except all we're catching is a bad GD No, he hasn't. He's made the 10s extra far forward in the visual for effect. It's not how it is. He's also not the furthest forward of the midfield 3 either. It's a general 2 3 4 1 in possession. Issue is we don't have the midfield 3 good enough to play this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes and Sherwood deserves a lot of credit for keeping us up and getting us to the FA Cup final but its too soon to draw comparisons. He needs to clear out the deadwood. We dont have any deadwood, the club system is that a new manager should be able to come in and adapt to the players we have with no more rebuilds required 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: No, he hasn't. He's made the 10s extra far forward in the visual for effect. It's not how it is. He's also not the furthest forward of the midfield 3 either. It's a general 2 3 4 1 in possession. Issue is we don't have the midfield 3 good enough to play this system. Absolutely correct. Midfield is key in this system - but the ‘engine room’ is very important whatever the system in use. We need to accept that only Ramsey comes anywhere near being good enough and he’s still learning his trade. We need two midfield players now but also a central striker and central defender are needed. If we have to prioritise then midfield first for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Comparison's to Sherwood are desperate and pathetic and obviously fueled by some sort of almost fanatical hatred of Gerrard. Smith only won six of his first thirteen matches but didn't see him being compared to Sherwood. Anyway Sherwood only won five of his first thirteen games in the league and we took sixteen points from those first thirteen games which is less than Gerrard. Edited February 14, 2022 by useless 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: We dont have any deadwood, the club system is that a new manager should be able to come in and adapt to the players we have with no more rebuilds required I’ll have some of what you must be smoking. No deadwood at Villa - tell me about Kalinic for a start. So a new manager should adapt to mediocre, mid table, players even though the owners and fans want the club to move upwards quickly? What’s going on is part of a long term development so don’t complain if we see no quick fix superficiality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, PerryBarrPet said: I’ll have some of what you must be smoking. No deadwood at Villa - tell me about Kalinic for a start. So a new manager should adapt to mediocre, mid table, players even though the owners and fans want the club to move upwards quickly? What’s going on is part of a long term development so don’t complain if we see no quick fix superficiality. Kalinic hasnt played for Villa in 3 years, not sure how he has any blame on this season. We finished 11th last season with 55 points and added Coutinho, Digne, Ings, Bailey, Buendia, Chambers, Young to that squad The manager is brought into improve our position and its not like he has been given the Norwich squad to achieve that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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