Xela Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Someone asked if any of our ex managers are currently in work, I don't think any are currently are they? Crazy that is. Smith, Lambert and Bruce will no doubt get back in at some point. We are a graveyard for managers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, sne said: FI is a shite-peddler and no idea on Danny Mills but this is pretty accurate IMO. https://www.footballinsider247.com/aston-villa-fans-should-be-delighted-as-gerrard-set-to-complete-four-deals-mills/ What a dickhead. Not one pundit said that Gerrard would be an upgrade on Smith. Everyone went out of their way to say Smith was very good and then said Gerrard was a good appointment. It took him 3 days to come up with that shyte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: What a dickhead. Not one pundit said that Gerrard would be an upgrade on Smith If he’s not an upgrade we have just thrown the cards in the air for no reason, so I hope he is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: If he’s not an upgrade we have just thrown the cards in the air for no reason, so I hope he is I don't think that is quite true. Our football was poor for the last year and we were in relegation form. They could be reasons for throwing the cards in the air. Gerrard, whether you agree or not, was a considered appointment by CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Quote Aston Villa are pleased to welcome Gary McAllister (Assistant Head Coach), Michael Beale (Assistant Head Coach), Tom Culshaw (Technical Coach), Scott Mason (Lead Analyst) and Jordan Milsom (Head of Fitness and Conditioning) to the club as part of Steven Gerrard’s backroom staff. Austin MacPhee, Aaron Danks and Neil Cutler will also remain at the club. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/13/villa-confirm-backroom-staff/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Milsoms got a big job too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Xela said: I just hope 'Stevie G' doesn't dismiss our academy and continues to blood them like Smith did. I'm hopeful because he worked in the LFC academy so hopefully he will appreciate the work Delaney and co do. I don't think he'll be allowed to. We've spent too much investing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Xela said: https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/13/villa-confirm-backroom-staff/ Great news and Wow, we are seriously investing in our coaching team., That is not cheap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Xela said: I just hope 'Stevie G' doesn't dismiss our academy and continues to blood them like Smith did. I'm hopeful because he worked in the LFC academy so hopefully he will appreciate the work Delaney and co do. He started out as Liverpool's academy manager, so he recognises the importance at least. Also, given the level of investment in the academy you'd expect making use of it would be a key expectation of anyone coming in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, Greenfly said: He started out as Liverpool's academy manager, so he recognises the importance at least. Also, given the level of investment in the academy you'd expect making use of it would be a key expectation of anyone coming in. From day 1 of NSWE buying us the message was always that our strategy is to develop youth. I really can't see that changing and as u say, we have invested millions in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I don't think that is quite true. Our football was poor for the last year and we were in relegation form. They could be reasons for throwing the cards in the air. Gerrard, whether you agree or not, was a considered appointment by CP. But you would only do that looking for an upgrade, especially if it was a considered appointment? Maybe I’ve misunderstood your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted November 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Xela said: Aston Villa are pleased to welcome Gary McAllister (Assistant Head Coach), Michael Beale (Assistant Head Coach), Tom Culshaw (Technical Coach), Scott Mason (Lead Analyst) and Jordan Milsom (Head of Fitness and Conditioning) to the club as part of Steven Gerrard’s backroom staff. Austin MacPhee, Aaron Danks and Neil Cutler will also remain at the club. So Villa will have two set piece coaches now. Over to Danny Murphy in the studio for his take on this 1 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2021 15 hours ago, Tom13 said: These jokes would be funny if he was difficult to understand in any way, but he's really not. He's no Jamie Carragher that's for sure. I man actually paid to talk that I can't understand approaching 50% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: But you would only do that looking for an upgrade, especially if it was a considered appointment? Maybe I’ve misunderstood your point. They clearly believe that Gerrard is an upgrade. I get that some people disagree with this but I do not believe for 1 second that Purslow doesn't believe that Gerrard and his team is not an upgrade on Smith and his team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Managers ability being on judged on their substitutions used to really wind me up. I thought it with stupid with Smith and no doubt will think the same with Gerrard. Why do you think that's stupid? It's arguably the most crucial skill of being a manager, spotting what's going wrong and fixing it with the right sub, understanding the ebb and flow of a game and knowing when to invigorate the right part of the pitch with fresh legs. I'm gobsmacked anyone would not consider this crucial, its about game management. Why do you think there was such a hoo-ha about the extra subs being allowed in lockdown because of the advantage it would give to clubs with deeper squads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Thats a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Surprised Mcphee and Danks are staying. Gonna need a bigger technical area 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Why do you think that's stupid? It's arguably the most crucial skill of being a manager, spotting what's going wrong and fixing it with the right sub, understanding the ebb and flow of a game and knowing when to invigorate the right part of the pitch with fresh legs. I'm gobsmacked anyone would not consider this crucial, its about game management. Why do you think there was such a hoo-ha about the extra subs being allowed in lockdown because of the advantage it would give to clubs with deeper squads? No chance for me. There's many more important aspects of a managers job in my opinion. The subs thing gets overblown all the time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: But you would only do that looking for an upgrade, especially if it was a considered appointment? Maybe I’ve misunderstood your point. It would be hard to consider Gerrard an upgrade, I think Danny Mills is spot on and that's what I'm more surprised on. Dean Smith is a very good manager, whose gone through a very bad recent patch and a poor year but that doesnt devalue that he is a very good manager. Gerrard is still fairly new to management really, has not managed at this level and a lot of the aura around Gerrard is because of his playing career and attitude. That may translate really well to management and we've seen glimpses of that at Rangers but rightly Mills also puts some context around that in the article. Bringing his team with him is very very important especially it seems Beale. Is Gerrard an upgrade on Smith? that's the risk CP and the owners have taken and believe in and we now will back 100% as fans but it is a gamble, lets hope it pays off because if it does, with his name, we could be going places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sidcow said: Why do you think that's stupid? It's arguably the most crucial skill of being a manager, spotting what's going wrong and fixing it with the right sub, understanding the ebb and flow of a game and knowing when to invigorate the right part of the pitch with fresh legs. I'm gobsmacked anyone would not consider this crucial, its about game management. Why do you think there was such a hoo-ha about the extra subs being allowed in lockdown because of the advantage it would give to clubs with deeper squads? Well that Rangers fan on this thread said it was one of Gerrard's flaws re subs and in-game management so some fans will not be happy. Edited November 13, 2021 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) Danks and nanny MacPhee staying suggest they weren’t Dean’s recruits. Not sure how they’re going to fit in which Gerrards already well sized back room team. Edited November 13, 2021 by It's Your Round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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