Relegation Avoidance Thread

[useless]

I had a dream before Christmas that we got relegated, in my dream I was really sad, 'not again : ( it took us long enough to get promoted in the first place', I thought, it was a crushing blow. And then I woke up and Iwas relieved that it was only a dream, I don't ever want to have that wicked nightmare ever again or for it to ever come true.

[HanoiVillan]

7 minutes ago, useless said:

I had a dream before Christmas that we got relegated, in my dream I was really sad, 'not again : ( it took us long enough to get promoted in the first place', I thought, it was a crushing blow. And then I woke up and Iwas relieved that it was only a dream, I don't ever want to have that wicked nightmare ever again or for it to ever come true.

Meh. I used to go to the games when we were in the Championship, and we won lots of football matches. I'd probably prefer it to be honest.

The only down side - and it is a major one - is the financial chaos.

Anyway, it will happen to us sooner or later (no sooner than next season!) so not much point worrying about it.

[Villa_Vids]

We are a premier league club, we should have never been in that league in the first place. It will be a very long time until we get relegated again IMO.

[useless]

Wasn't as if we were any good in the championship, spent more than any other team ever in that division, yet got nowhere near top two and most of the time it was us struggling to get into the top six, we even had a season of getting nowhere near that, and more than often the opposition played better football than us, again despite all the money we spent.

[Keyblade]

7 hours ago, useless said:

Wasn't as if we were any good in the championship, spent more than any other team ever in that division, yet got nowhere near top two and most of the time it was us struggling to get into the top six, we even had a season of getting nowhere near that, and more than often the opposition played better football than us, again despite all the money we spent.

17/18 we won a shitload of games. It was kind of weird getting used to winning most weeks. Of course, we couldn't win when it counted which is why we ultimately didn't get promoted, but that was one of my most enjoyable seasons as a Villa fan. My most enjoyable season? The one right after, also in the Championship.

[Tom13]

2022 table is bleak

[messi11]

49 minutes ago, Tom13 said:

2022 table is bleak

The Steven Gerrard years 

[rodders0223]

11 hours ago, Villa_Vids said:

We are a premier league club, we should have never been in that league in the first place. It will be a very long time until we get relegated again IMO.

Agreed, we just need to keep spending 100m every year to finish mid table.

[tomav84]

12 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Meh. I used to go to the games when we were in the Championship, and we won lots of football matches. I'd probably prefer it to be honest.

The only down side - and it is a major one - is the financial chaos.

Anyway, it will happen to us sooner or later (no sooner than next season!) so not much point worrying about it.

never understand people that say they prefer the championship. we won some games but also got beat 3-0 by **** wigan

i never want to go back to that

[Zatman]

32 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

never understand people that say they prefer the championship. we won some games but also got beat 3-0 by **** wigan

i never want to go back to that

but it was real honest football and not a rigged system that is currently the Premier League

[delboy54]

I know what you are saying but the predictably of us regularly losing to the top 5 gets boring, whereas in the championship there is no VARs, the refs are just as bad but at least they dont seem to have the "unconscious bias" that they have towards the top 5

Not so much wankfest/skyscum frenzy in the championship...

Not saying I want us to go down, but is the best we are ever going to do is finish mid table or go on a cup run until we inevitably draw man yoo away and get knocked out?

The top 5 is a cartel and I cannot see us ever breaking into it

 

[Peter Griffin]

1 hour ago, messi11 said:

The Steven Gerrard years 

Wow, 20 games is now 'years' 

[The Fun Factory]

20 minutes ago, Zatman said:

but it was real honest football and not a rigged system that is currently the Premier League

Well... some may say having massive parachute payments also help those who get relegated. 

But at least we won most home games so at least less weekends were ruined.

Edited April 21, 2022 by The Fun Factory

[romavillan]

2 hours ago, Tom13 said:

2022 table is bleak

Right so Smith has acheived only 3 points less than Gerrard this year. Smith got sacked for underachieving with our squad, goes to Norwich who in comparison to Gerrard's fully fit and improved squad (Smith got to play his preferred 11 through fitness issues for about an hour) are absolute shite, where he gets only 3 points less than Gerrard. 

I don't want to slag off Gerrard, but on that evidence we may not have made the right choice. Longer term let's hope Gerrard is a success, but that table is very grim reading.

[The_Steve]

Just now, romavillan said:

Right so Smith has acheived only 3 points less than Gerrard this year. Smith got sacked for underachieving with our squad, goes to Norwich who in comparison to Gerrard's fully fit and improved squad (Smith got to play his preferred 11 through fitness issues for about an hour) are absolute shite, where he gets only 3 points less than Gerrard. 

I don't want to slag off Gerrard, but on that evidence we may not have made the right choice. Longer term let's hope Gerrard is a success, but that table is very grim reading.

Let’s be honest though - Smith’s 2021 tenure was the straw that broke the camel’s back. It wasn’t just about the 5 defeats in a row. 

[romavillan]

Just now, The_Steve said:

Let’s be honest though - Smith’s 2021 tenure was the straw that broke the camel’s back. It wasn’t just about the 5 defeats in a row. 

Results weren't great no, something weird happened with Terry and O'Kelly going too for me. That said if you sack Smith for underachieving, then spend on improving the squad further and the results do not improve. That doesn't look like such a good decision, especially seeing as Smith this season never really got to play his strongest XI.

[jim]

38 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said:

Wow, 20 games is now 'years' 

It's not even 20 this year, it's 13.

[tomsky_11]

37 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said:

Wow, 20 games is now 'years' 

Not even the 20 game table, which actually looks like this:

[tomsky_11]

Just now, tomsky_11 said:

Not even the 20 game table, which actually looks like this:

Or the ppg equivalent table given the disparity in games played, which bumps us up another place:

R	Team	P	W%	D%	L%	GFPG	GAPG	GDPG	PPG
1	Liverpool	21	81%	14%	5%	2.48	0.52	1.95	2.571
2	Manchester City	21	81%	14%	5%	2.52	0.67	1.86	2.571
3	Tottenham	21	62%	10%	29%	2.24	1.05	1.19	1.952
4	Chelsea	20	50%	30%	20%	1.95	1.15	0.80	1.800
5	Arsenal	21	57%	5%	38%	1.71	1.24	0.48	1.762
6	Manchester United	22	45%	32%	23%	1.50	1.41	0.09	1.682
7	Newcastle United	22	45%	23%	32%	1.14	1.41	(0.27)	1.591
8	Wolverhampton Wanderers	21	48%	14%	38%	1.05	0.76	0.29	1.571
9	West Ham	22	36%	23%	41%	1.32	1.36	(0.05)	1.318
10	Aston Villa	20	40%	10%	50%	1.40	1.30	0.10	1.300
11	Leicester	20	35%	25%	40%	1.55	1.65	(0.10)	1.300
12	Brentford	22	36%	14%	50%	1.27	1.59	(0.32)	1.227
13	Southampton	21	29%	33%	38%	1.33	1.90	(0.57)	1.190
14	Crystal Palace	21	24%	33%	43%	1.33	1.29	0.05	1.048
15	Leeds	21	29%	19%	52%	1.29	2.38	(1.10)	1.048
16	Brighton	22	23%	36%	41%	0.77	1.27	(0.50)	1.045
17	Burnley	20	15%	40%	45%	0.75	1.40	(0.65)	0.850
18	Norwich	21	19%	19%	62%	0.81	1.90	(1.10)	0.762
19	Everton	20	20%	10%	70%	0.90	1.85	(0.95)	0.700
20	Watford	21	14%	14%	71%	0.86	2.05	(1.19)	0.571

 

[tomsky_11]

4 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said:

Or the ppg equivalent table given the disparity in games played, which bumps us up another place:

R	Team	P	W%	D%	L%	GFPG	GAPG	GDPG	PPG
1	Liverpool	21	81%	14%	5%	2.48	0.52	1.95	2.571
2	Manchester City	21	81%	14%	5%	2.52	0.67	1.86	2.571
3	Tottenham	21	62%	10%	29%	2.24	1.05	1.19	1.952
4	Chelsea	20	50%	30%	20%	1.95	1.15	0.80	1.800
5	Arsenal	21	57%	5%	38%	1.71	1.24	0.48	1.762
6	Manchester United	22	45%	32%	23%	1.50	1.41	0.09	1.682
7	Newcastle United	22	45%	23%	32%	1.14	1.41	(0.27)	1.591
8	Wolverhampton Wanderers	21	48%	14%	38%	1.05	0.76	0.29	1.571
9	West Ham	22	36%	23%	41%	1.32	1.36	(0.05)	1.318
10	Aston Villa	20	40%	10%	50%	1.40	1.30	0.10	1.300
11	Leicester	20	35%	25%	40%	1.55	1.65	(0.10)	1.300
12	Brentford	22	36%	14%	50%	1.27	1.59	(0.32)	1.227
13	Southampton	21	29%	33%	38%	1.33	1.90	(0.57)	1.190
14	Crystal Palace	21	24%	33%	43%	1.33	1.29	0.05	1.048
15	Leeds	21	29%	19%	52%	1.29	2.38	(1.10)	1.048
16	Brighton	22	23%	36%	41%	0.77	1.27	(0.50)	1.045
17	Burnley	20	15%	40%	45%	0.75	1.40	(0.65)	0.850
18	Norwich	21	19%	19%	62%	0.81	1.90	(1.10)	0.762
19	Everton	20	20%	10%	70%	0.90	1.85	(0.95)	0.700
20	Watford	21	14%	14%	71%	0.86	2.05	(1.19)	0.571

 

Also, 8th for goals scored per game, 9th for goals conceded, 7th for GDPG.