danceoftheshamen Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Burnley do Worry me i have to say especially as they may now get a new manager bounce. They have several very winnable games and our 2 against them are critical. We must not lose both of those games. Two draws or A loss & win would be ok but two losses most definately not and a loss & a draw would not be good either. You can see up to 14 / 15 points for them from their remaining games if they hit a bit of form and that's without any "shocks" (Although would mean them doing the double over us of course) If by some horrow story they did beat us twice we could be right in trouble. Liverpool & Man City is almost definatley 0 points for us so that leaves Leicester (a) Palace at home (very tough as they are flying away from home whilst we are attrocious at home) and Norwich! If all those games go to form we are looking at just the Norwich and Burnley games we would expect to get something from. So again IF we got 0 or 1 point from those we really could be in trouble as that would mean the likes of Everton, Newcastle & Leeds would naturally overtake us as they all have a couple of wins in them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 We're not going to go on the worst losing run in our history, and Burnley aren't going to double their wins in the next 8 games and become world beaters. They're shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: Burnley do Worry me i have to say especially as they may now get a new manager bounce. They have several very winnable games and our 2 against them are critical. We must not lose both of those games. Two draws or A loss & win would be ok but two losses most definately not and a loss & a draw would not be good either. You can see up to 14 / 15 points for them from their remaining games if they hit a bit of form and that's without any "shocks" (Although would mean them doing the double over us of course) If by some horrow story they did beat us twice we could be right in trouble. Liverpool & Man City is almost definatley 0 points for us so that leaves Leicester (a) Palace at home (very tough as they are flying away from home whilst we are attrocious at home) and Norwich! If all those games go to form we are looking at just the Norwich and Burnley games we would expect to get something from. So again IF we got 0 or 1 point from those we really could be in trouble as that would mean the likes of Everton, Newcastle & Leeds would naturally overtake us as they all have a couple of wins in them, We won't go down this season.(we only need another point) Next season could be squeaky bum time - if Gerrard gets all his old mates in and sells the ones (in his opinion) not good enough. Really hope the club wakes up and pulls the plug on project Stevie - before he does too much damage. Edited April 16, 2022 by hippo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, hippo said: We won't go down this season.(we only need another point) Next season could be squeaky bum time - if Gerrard gets all his old mates in and sells the ones (in his opinion) not good enough. Really hope the club wakes up and pulls the plug on project Stevie - before he does too much damage. Well I hope he gets his old mate Coutinho in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Wow, just looked at the table. Depressing. Villa could be 15th next time we play, FFS. 8th was well within reach a month ago... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Wow, just looked at the table. Depressing. Villa could be 15th next time we play, FFS. 8th was well within reach a month ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Think Newcastle and Leeds will both finish above us. 16th is very much on the cards for this season, that is a disaster. Cant see us getting many more points,. Norwich and Watford are down, it is a toss up between Everton and Burnley, outside chance we might get dragged into it but would require Burnley and Everton to win the vast majority of their remaining games. Which I can't see happening. But to finish 16th would be awful, don't want to see Gerrard here next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Just now, calcifer said: Think Newcastle and Leeds will both finish above us. 16th is very much on the cards for this season, that is a disaster. Cant see us getting many more points,. Norwich and Watford are down, it is a toss up between Everton and Burnley, outside chance we might get dragged into it but would require Burnley and Everton to win the vast majority of their remaining games. Which I can't see happening. But to finish 16th would be awful, don't want to see Gerrard here next season. Yep not the 'strong second half of the season' Purslow promised after the winter transfer window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 We already have enough points to stay up. In no way is that good enough. And we'd have likely scored more points without the upheaval in November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, hippo said: Yep not the 'strong second half of the season' Purslow promised after the winter transfer window. It has been total garbage. It is easy for the manager to blame to players, but here is an idea, how about changing the style of play, it's not working, we have some good players but they don't fit the Slippy G style of play. So we are going to see another summer of huge upheaval as well as big losses on last seasons signing Bailey and Buendia (who both don't really fit with Steve) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 We're not going down, of course, but it's astonishing to see we've lost more games than Newcastle, Leeds, Burnley, Palace, Southampton, Brentford & Brighton. If someone had of said that at the start of the season you'd be forgiven thinking we would be fighting relegation at this stage. What a dreadful season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 We're 500/1 to go down. There's a reason for that. Of course, we may well end up finishing just 2 or 3 places above the relegation zone and that's obviously not good enough, but it's a separate issue from whether we're gonna go down (we're not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mantis said: We're 500/1 to go down. There's a reason for that. Of course, we may well end up finishing just 2 or 3 places above the relegation zone and that's obviously not good enough, but it's a separate issue from whether we're gonna go down (we're not). Agreed. Big decision for the club. Stevie G will feel emboldened to tell the powers that be "it's the players gimme £150m" Where as some voices within the club will doubt that it can be so many of the players - some of which are actively sought by other PL clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Burnley beat us twice and win their game in hand over us and they would only be three points behind. Probably unlikely but we need one more win to make absolutely certain. Edited April 16, 2022 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 No chance we are going down. But given the fact both Newcastle and Leeds, who were at some points spoken about as clubs who should be really worried, could quite easily finish above us, is pretty terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: We're not going to go on the worst losing run in our history, and Burnley aren't going to double their wins in the next 8 games and become world beaters. They're shit. " Would you bet against us? " 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Wow, I haven't been on here in a while and how things change. I can't believe people are seriously suggesting we will go down. I would love to find a bookies that held the same view and I would be a wealthy man come June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, calcifer said: It has been total garbage. It is easy for the manager to blame to players, but here is an idea, how about changing the style of play, it's not working, we have some good players but they don't fit the Slippy G style of play. So we are going to see another summer of huge upheaval as well as big losses on last seasons signing Bailey and Buendia (who both don't really fit with Steve) They didn't really fit before he came either......what style of play do you propose? We do have some good players, but too many the same. For my way of thinking....all the styles they have presented under 2 managers have failed too. Whats the alternative? If we don't sign right in the first place, its bound to have a knock on effect in to so many areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 The stadium news in interesting and positive but on the whole this season has been a disaster and a wasted year and my general interest is going the way of the guy on the right. I just don't believe in the current project sadly. But it would still take something extraordinary for us to get relegated this season. That it's still on the card says it all about this season thou. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 well well. The dreamers are dying. relegation is upon us. They say its the players, yet we have better players then Brentford and Brighton... Yet Brentford and Brighton can beat spurs, arsenal and chelsea. Its not the players its the manager. the tactics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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