sidcow Posted May 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Xela said: Think of how many double bacon cheeseburgers you can order off Uber Eats with £400. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 It costs a fortune to charge your electric car now, thank goodness they put fuel prices up to justify still buying one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Xela said: Think of how many double bacon cheeseburgers you can order off Uber Eats with £400. @rjs68 is all going on porn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted May 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: @rjs68 is all going on porn If that guy ever logs back in, they're in for a shock 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: @rjs68 is all going on porn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: @rjs68 is all going on porn **** hell Dem you spanner lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Looked at Dems post, thought who the **** is that? Beautiful. Just beautiful. @rjw63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Oh shit apologies @rjs68 i meant @rjw63 Ffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rjw63 Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2022 51 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Oh shit apologies @rjs68 i meant @rjw63 Ffs Pay? For porn? What century is this? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 31, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2022 Classic Dem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 15 hours ago, foreveryoung said: It costs a fortune to charge your electric car now, thank goodness they put fuel prices up to justify still buying one. They probably won't be saying it publicly but I don't think the Greens will be unhappy with the high cost of energy, their policies have implied that it would be desirable. As for paying a minimum of £400 to every household, it very much looks like an experiment in universal basic income. It does seem likely that the desperate and the dysfunctional will spend the extra on things other than their energy bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted May 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2022 I know it’s not as straightforward as this suggests but it’s still insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 31, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: They probably won't be saying it publicly but I don't think the Greens will be unhappy with the high cost of energy, their policies have implied that it would be desirable. Are we talking energy of oil based fuel here? I don't think the Greens have ever argued for expensive renewable energy if it is oil based fuel, then the current circumstances might show them that the policy just won't work, the prices would have to be much higher than now before people stop using petrol / diesel. It will push them into the electric market for sure but... there aren't anywhere near enough cheaper models available. They need to be far more carrot than stick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, choffer said: I know it’s not as straightforward as this suggests but it’s still insane. I've been saying this for ages now, the price of oil (which gas/electric prices basically mirror on all time series graphs) is not following the pattern. The gov can't keep saying it's due to supply shortages, or lack of lorry drivers any longer - it's blatant profiteering. OR it could be that they're artificially inflating the price of gas, so de-carbonising (which will require everyone to go green electric) becomes more viable/desirable. THAT SAID, electric has gone up too, which doesn't support that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted May 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: I've been saying this for ages now, the price of oil (which gas/electric prices basically mirror on all time series graphs) is not following the pattern. The gov can't keep saying it's due to supply shortages, or lack of lorry drivers any longer - it's blatant profiteering. OR it could be that they're artificially inflating the price of gas, so de-carbonising (which will require everyone to go green electric) becomes more viable/desirable. THAT SAID, electric has gone up too, which doesn't support that argument. Obvious link (between oil & gas companies profiteering and the Tories) is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, choffer said: I know it’s not as straightforward as this suggests but it’s still insane. Isn't it that the companies buy in bulk so we are still paying for the expensive gas. If true we should expect bills go down, not up very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Isn't it that the companies buy in bulk so we are still paying for the expensive gas. If true we should expect bills go down, not up very soon. You'd think that it would be a race back to the bottom (£) so people smash those long term contracts if that was the case, but it isn't so far by the big 6 (energy companies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, choffer said: I know it’s not as straightforward as this suggests but it’s still insane. Yes but hasn’t the price of wholesale gas gone up by around 200% in the past 12 months. So even a fall of 63% in 3 months mean that gas has increased by around 140%. Dont quote me on the exact numbers, I vaguely remember seeing graph of prices of the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 31, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, ender4 said: Yes but hasn’t the price of wholesale gas gone up by around 200% in the past 12 months. So even a fall of 63% in 3 months mean that gas has increased by around 140%. Sorry to be a maths pedant, but that's not how percentages work. If gas used to cost 1 pound, an increase of 200% means it goes to £3. Then a fall of 63% means it falls by £1.89 meaning it now costs £1.11 - an increase of 11% from the starting price. [end pedantry] But your overall point, or that in the tweet has a bit of merit, though suppliers buy at a price point for the next (say) 6 months, so it takes time for falls or increases to filter through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, blandy said: Sorry to be a maths pedant, but that's not how percentages work. If gas used to cost 1 pound, an increase of 200% means it goes to £3. Then a fall of 63% means it falls by £1.89 meaning it now costs £1.11 - an increase of 11% from the starting price. Damn it, I knew that about percentages as well but still fell into the trap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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