DJBOB Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 7 hours ago, paul514 said: his passing is awful His passing is not Buendia, Kamara or Luiz levels, that is true. Again - it’s much like McGinn. He can have only 25 passes the whole match at a low completion % but will usually have a few key passes a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, TheMelvillan said: His slightly Rubenesque features makes it hard for me to accept the fact that he as athletic and dynamic as everyone is telling me on here! Our very own McGinn is self admittedly meatball esque in shape too. In general, I think Unai and co. are targeting more squishiness types. Between McKennie, Iling-Junior, and Barkley - there’s a sense that we might be trading some flair for rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Quote Villa are expected to complete a deal that will see Douglas Luiz join Juventus with the club collecting around £20 million and taking midfielder Weston McKennie, who could be utilised at right-back, and former Chelsea utility player Samuel Iling-Junior. Chelsea granted permission to talk to Jhon Duran as Aston Villa enquire about Ian Maatsen (telegraph.co.uk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, DJBOB said: Our very own McGinn is self admittedly meatball esque in shape too. In general, I think Unai and co. are targeting more squishiness types. Between McKennie, Iling-Junior, and Barkley - there’s a sense that we might be trading some flair for rugby. Wow......I am not sure of what your terminology of squishiness is supposed to represent, but your last description, leaves me baffled.....and you think our manager would do that?.....not respecting the abundance of flair, we already have. I trust the manager, implicitly in his approach to building the side, and his movements within the rules of PSR are proving to be tricky.....but I don't suspect any compromise in his thoughts, to his overall vision, for us. We had issues, last season, despite our great finish.....issues in the main with conceding too many, and too easily, soft goals......I am not surprised, that will have resonated in the managers mind, so when he goes about strengthening under difficult and restrictive circumstances, it doesn't surprise me in some of the links we have...Of course they are only links, and until we see, who we have actually signed, its difficult to judge. I am quietly confident, when the strengthening has concluded.....We will be a stronger team, even if some folk, think we have sacrificed, better players, as individuals......I trust this manager, to build a better team. Edited June 14 by TRO 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, TRO said: I am quietly confident, when the strengthening has concluded.....We will be a stronger team, even if some folk, think we have sacrificed, better players, as individuals......I trust this manager, to build a better team. I share your confidence TRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 11 hours ago, DJBOB said: Our very own McGinn is self admittedly meatball esque in shape too. I think he was referring to his haircut and not his body shape when he said that :- D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 hours ago, DJBOB said: Our very own McGinn is self admittedly meatball esque in shape too. In general, I think Unai and co. are targeting more squishiness types. Between McKennie, Iling-Junior, and Barkley - there’s a sense that we might be trading some flair for rugby. What's a squishiness type? Also, Barkley doesn't lack ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, Tom13 said: What's a squishiness type? Also, Barkley doesn't lack ability. Fat barstewards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marka Ragnos Posted June 14 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 14 Don't want to be a buzz killer, but I'm sincerely baffled about how anyone could be looking forward to the prospect of Weston McKennie at Villa. Mediocre player and Leeds cast-off who has an attitude. Surely we can do better? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Marka Ragnos said: Don't want to be a buzz killer, but I'm sincerely baffled about how anyone could be looking forward to the prospect of Weston McKennie at Villa. Mediocre player and Leeds cast-off who has an attitude. Surely we can do better? Technically limited and not much of an upgrade on Dendoncker tbh. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 10 hours ago, TRO said: Wow......I am not sure of what your terminology of squishiness is supposed to represent, but your last description, leaves me baffled.....and you think our manager would do that?.....not respecting the abundance of flair, we already have. I trust the manager, implicitly in his approach to building the side, and his movements within the rules of PSR are proving to be tricky.....but I don't suspect any compromise in his thoughts, to his overall vision, for us. We had issues, last season, despite our great finish.....issues in the main with conceding too many, and too easily, soft goals......I am not surprised, that will have resonated in the managers mind, so when he goes about strengthening under difficult and restrictive circumstances, it doesn't surprise me in some of the links we have...Of course they are only links, and until we see, who we have actually signed, its difficult to judge. I am quietly confident, when the strengthening has concluded.....We will be a stronger team, even if some folk, think we have sacrificed, better players, as individuals......I trust this manager, to build a better team. On the contrary, I think McKennie, Barkley, and Iling-Junior have a lot of technical ability. But I get the sense that Unai is gearing up for UCL and we'll need to dig in for players who can carry the water like McKennie and Barkley to let others shine (Watkins/Bailey/Rogers/Diaby) in 1v1 situations. Edited June 14 by DJBOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJBOB Posted June 14 Popular Post Share Posted June 14 14 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Don't want to be a buzz killer, but I'm sincerely baffled about how anyone could be looking forward to the prospect of Weston McKennie at Villa. Mediocre player and Leeds cast-off who has an attitude. Surely we can do better? It's interesting that the tone is Leeds cast off instead of Juventus and UCL starter. I'm nostalgic of the mentions of get rid of Luiz, McGinn, Watkins, and Bailey under a poor manager like Gerrard. I think it's telling that Jesse Marsch has ended up managing a poor Canadian national team and a reminder that McKennie's time in Leeds should be viewed with the appropriate context. I think there's reasons to worry, but on the upside, McKennie is a player who has not come close to his ceiling and might just stumble into the right environment at VP and under Unai to let him reach it. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 7 hours ago, DJBOB said: It's interesting that the tone is Leeds cast off instead of Juventus and UCL starter. I'm nostalgic of the mentions of get rid of Luiz, McGinn, Watkins, and Bailey under a poor manager like Gerrard. I think it's telling that Jesse Marsch has ended up managing a poor Canadian national team and a reminder that McKennie's time in Leeds should be viewed with the appropriate context. I think there's reasons to worry, but on the upside, McKennie is a player who has not come close to his ceiling and might just stumble into the right environment at VP and under Unai to let him reach it. A lot of people only really watch the Premier League so their only impression of him comes from his time at Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Lion Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 8 hours ago, DJBOB said: It's interesting that the tone is Leeds cast off instead of Juventus and UCL starter. I'm nostalgic of the mentions of get rid of Luiz, McGinn, Watkins, and Bailey under a poor manager like Gerrard. I think it's telling that Jesse Marsch has ended up managing a poor Canadian national team and a reminder that McKennie's time in Leeds should be viewed with the appropriate context. I think there's reasons to worry, but on the upside, McKennie is a player who has not come close to his ceiling and might just stumble into the right environment at VP and under Unai to let him reach it. Hallelujah! 100% this, Emery obviously thinks he can work with these players. That’s good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 9 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: Don't want to be a buzz killer, but I'm sincerely baffled about how anyone could be looking forward to the prospect of Weston McKennie at Villa. Mediocre player and Leeds cast-off who has an attitude. Surely we can do better? Because we're in the CL, life is good and it's not worth getting upset about really. Maybe I got old, maybe my priorities changed , or maybe I don't see the need to worry about the clubs transfer policy. We're up there. We ain't suddenly going to drop well off and we will drop off, it's life. I can just imagine the fallout when we finish a 'disgusting' 7th next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 People in here acting like we just signed Eirik Bakke on a free, or Djemba Djemba. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duke313 Posted June 15 Popular Post Share Posted June 15 9 hours ago, AshVilla said: Technically limited and not much of an upgrade on Dendoncker tbh. The player who played all season for 3rd place Juve isn’t much better than the player who couldn’t get into 9th place Napoli team? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post _AA_786 Posted June 15 Popular Post Share Posted June 15 Having supported Juve as a 2nd team for many years (until the super league debacle), I've previously been fairly vocal on McKennie being sh!te and this making no sense whatsoever. The reality is I was possibly reacting more so to the comparison with Luiz. McKennie is nowhere near as technically gifted or capable as Luiz. He won't be a 9/10 centre mid who dictates play but he does however offer greater positional versatility. Unai is clearly bringing him in to give 6-7 out of 10 levels to multiple positions with the aim for Unai coaching to up that level. At Juve he has far superior technical players around him so he can do the water carrier work. I suspect we're doing this move for PSR to allow us to buy a Baena type in July/Aug. So McKennie will be a water carrier for us too when that signing arrives, hence this will all make sense later. Its only mid June so let's be patient until the first few pieces have dropped 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 20 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: People in here acting like we just signed Eirik Bakke on a free, or Djemba Djemba. If he plays like he did at Leeds then Bakke is the better player, if he plays like last season at Juve we may have something to work with. So was his time at Leeds what we’ll get or last season at Juve what’ll we’ll get as that’s all we have because before that at Juve he was injured for a long time. The jury is out! Only time will tell whether we have the next Bakke/DJx2 or a quality player. It would be disingenuous to say he’s definitely going to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: If he plays like he did at Leeds then Bakke is the better player, if he plays like last season at Juve we may have something to work with. So was his time at Leeds what we’ll get or last season at Juve what’ll we’ll get as that’s all we have because before that at Juve he was injured for a long time. The jury is out! Only time will tell whether we have the next Bakke/DJx2 or a quality player. It would be disingenuous to say he’s definitely going to be good. Can he do it without the "special" Juve injections and pills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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