ciggiesnbeer Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I have no beef with caleb. Our youth player who I hope develops and has a fine career with us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: clearly believed he had all the talent. Up to him to do something with it. I’d imagine that’s the message drilled into the lads at the academy every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MellbergsBeard Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) Happy to train them and sell them for £20million a pop up when there not good enough for our first team. Edited August 2, 2022 by MellbergsBeard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) Will he follow him out? Edited August 3, 2022 by gordy Posted wrong comment on wrong brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 2, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2022 What a disastrous signing for him, put his development back 2 seasons at least. £20m a fair price for a player that age. Good luck to the lad, he's going to need it . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, tinker said: What a disastrous signing for him, put his development back 2 seasons at least. £20m a fair price for a player that age. Good luck to the lad, he's going to need it . I think u may be on the wrong thread 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 2, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I think u may be on the wrong thread Whoops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Let's hope he doesn't have ideas above his station like his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, tinker said: Whoops 1 hour ago, tinker said: What a disastrous signing for him, put his development back 2 seasons at least. £20m a fair price for a player that age. Good luck to the lad, he's going to need it . Two chuckwuemekas, there’s only two chuckwuemekas…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, thunderball said: Two chuckwuemekas, there’s only two chuckwuemekas…… I think he was on about C. Chukwuemeka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: I think he was on about C. Chukwuemeka. I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Come on Caleb, be the next Chukwuemeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Only my opinion, likely wrong, but we pandered to Carney by signing Caleb. And now, Carney is off, Caleb is 21 in a few months, 2 career goals (including 1 for mighty Corby Town and the other for Northampton). Struggled at Livingston, didn't even score, in fact, in one of the games last season on loan there he was subbed on and subbed off within seven mins for reasons of having a bad attitude / being out of his depth. Talking of scoring, there is more chance of me scoring a date with Kate Upton, tonight, than there is of Caleb ever making it at this club. Given the age and possible lack of development, and since I am a petty sort who holds grudges easily, I would sell him tomorrow, even if all I could get was a KitKat or a Bounty in exchange, I'd take it. Caleb is not needed so much any more and we have better, younger forwards with more prospects. All the best, either way, and good luck for the season for the lad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Lion Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Good luck to him. However I would bet that Iroegbonum and Haden make the breakthrough before him.Never been overly impressed with him , too casual for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I think he'll be gone soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just send him instead, it’s not like anyone at Chelsea would even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 21 years old and playing in our PL2 team or on loan at a second rate team. Exactly what Purslow said we don't want when he came on board. He'll be sold/loaned out till eternity/released now little brother has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Purslow said we didn't want twenty year olds playing for our U23s as if they're still playing at that level by that age then they're probably not going to be good enough for us, but it's different if we've got players that age that are good enough to go out on loan, those players can still potentially make it with us, or if not we have a better chance of selling them on for a profit. Last summer we signed, Frith, Caleb, Thorndike, and Azaz as older academy players, all in their twenties now, so we obviously have a plan for these type of players, which is probably to try and develop them to then sell on and make a profit, if they exceed our expectations and become good enough for our first team then even better. Philogene is in his twenties, the likes of Kesler-Hayden, and Aaron Ramsey are approaching their twenties, but we aren't going to suddenly think they're not good enough if they're not part of our first team by then. Caleb will likely go on loan and hopefully he does well, from what I watched of his time in Scotland, it really is unfair to judge him based on it, he was being played on the wing, and being brought on in games when they were going defensive, so at times being asked to play more like a fullback, also the style of play was completely different to anything I've seen in English football, was like watching a different sport at times, can guarantee all our other youngsters would have struggled in the same situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, useless said: Purslow said we didn't want twenty year olds playing for our U23s as if they're still playing at that level by that age then they're probably not going to be good enough for us, but it's different if we've got players that age that are good enough to go out on loan, those players can still potentially make it with us, or if not we have a better chance of selling them on for a profit. Last summer we signed, Frith, Caleb, Thorndike, and Azaz as older academy players, all in their twenties now, so we obviously have a plan for these type of players, which is probably to try and develop them to then sell on and make a profit, if they exceed our expectations and become good enough for our first team then even better. Philogene is in his twenties, the likes of Kesler-Hayden, and Aaron Ramsey are approaching their twenties, but we aren't going to suddenly think they're not good enough if they're not part of our first team by then. Caleb will likely go on loan and hopefully he does well, from what I watched of his time in Scotland, it really is unfair to judge him based on it, he was being played on the wing, and being brought on in games when they were going defensive, so at times being asked to play more like a fullback, also the style of play was completely different to anything I've seen in English football, was like watching a different sport at times, can guarantee all our other youngsters would have struggled in the same situation Tbh, it feels like you have an excuse ready any time our youth players fail to excel out on loan. Its always either "Its unfair to judge them on it", "they actually performed a lot better than people think" or "they still developed very well despite not playing much" etc. Edited August 3, 2022 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 And you put our youth players down base on 'whoscored' ratings. Also I don't just defend our youth players when they're getting criticized for their loan periods, I also say when I think they're being overrated, as I think that can be unfair as well. I also say when I think our youngsters are being overrated whilst with us, like when people were calling for Brad Young and Raiklhy to get a chance in the first team, based on FA Youth Cup games. Most young players will fail to excel when out on loan, especially their first loan, but you don't write them off because of that, just because they might be highly rated, it doesn't mean they have to look like wonder kids going out on loan, if that was the criteria hardly any players would ever make it, as most will look at best average when they first breakthrough, even the ones that go on to be very good players. Besides the only loan players I can think of that I've defended are Barry and Caleb, pretty sure most people agree that Barry failing at Ipswich wasn't his fault, so that just leaves Caleb, I've had non Villa fans based in Scotland agree with me on here about his time in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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