_AA_786 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Might be alone in this but for reasonable wages I'd take Memphis on a 1-2yr deal - probably more than Hermoso now we have Maatsen. CL experience, can play in 1 or 2 up front, FK/Pen taker and hugely talented. "Just" need to keep him focused but he's more mature now than his United days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Atletico pay really high wages so I wouldn't be surprised if we scrapped a deal to keep our squad cost down. I doubt he would take a pay cut when leaving on a free transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) 34 minutes ago, _AA_786 said: Might be alone in this but for reasonable wages I'd take Memphis on a 1-2yr deal - probably more than Hermoso now we have Maatsen. CL experience, can play in 1 or 2 up front, FK/Pen taker and hugely talented. "Just" need to keep him focused but he's more mature now than his United days Depay is a talented player, no doubt. Yet to me, he’s just a Dutch Jessie Lingard. Quick to be distracted by social media nonsense. It’s hindered his overall potential Edited June 30 by CarryOnVilla 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 13 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Atletico pay really high wages so I wouldn't be surprised if we scrapped a deal to keep our squad cost down. I doubt he would take a pay cut when leaving on a free transfer. I think we will be signing a younger CB. It would leave Ezri at our youngest first team CB at 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, Zatman said: He was on 140k a week ar Atletici. Chambers be lucky to be on 50k a week There's no chance he was on 140k. He does according to a website that says Jan Oblak on 400k a week. As in total bs. The reports from Italy seem to be around €90k and three years are the offers he's getting. Napoli for example. That seems about right. I'd say Chambers is on £50k as he joined as a senior player so that's €60k so 2/3rd of the reported offer in Italy for Hermoso Premier League wages are higher than elsewhere. It's why we compete with all bar the Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and PSGs of Europe for players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: I think we will be signing a younger CB. It would leave Ezri at our youngest first team CB at 26. I think if we move Carlos on we'll go for a younger right footed CB. There's no chance we go into the season with just Pau, Carlos and Konsa fit and waiting on Mings (reports September return). When we often play 3 CBs in a game. We'll add one as Chambers and Lenglet leave. Then a one out one in if Carlos leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) Real, Barca & Atletico pay absurd wages. Atletico are trying to reduce this and have over the last few seasons by loaning out Felix and others. Gone from almost €200m to closer to €140m. Depay & Hermoso leaving is part of the salary dump. They are in a similar but less severe situation to Barca in that they have to reduce salaries to be allowed to register new players. Edit: For example Diego Simeone has been the highest paid manager in the world for most of his time there. Edited June 30 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Mings is the key for this move. Im not sure mings will be the same aftee that injury so i would be favour of this move For me it's a catch 22. Mings is already ours and very much engrained in the club. Probably on lower wages too. If the indications are that he will be fine, it saves us a tonne of expense and headache. Even as just a " squad " player. Although Hermoso is a couple years younger. Don't know much about him but unless he is MUCH better than Mings I'm not sure if it's necessary. Then again that's different if/when one of Digne or Moreno move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 41 minutes ago, CVByrne said: There's no chance he was on 140k. He does according to a website that says Jan Oblak on 400k a week. As in total bs. The reports from Italy seem to be around €90k and three years are the offers he's getting. Napoli for example. That seems about right. I'd say Chambers is on £50k as he joined as a senior player so that's €60k so 2/3rd of the reported offer in Italy for Hermoso Premier League wages are higher than elsewhere. It's why we compete with all bar the Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and PSGs of Europe for players He was a Spanish international when he signed and was a time Atletico were paying big wages Atletico are usually a top 10 wage bill club and have a higher wage bill than Liverpool and Spurs plus us and Juve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 16 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: For me it's a catch 22. Mings is already ours and very much engrained in the club. Probably on lower wages too. If the indications are that he will be fine, it saves us a tonne of expense and headache. Even as just a " squad " player. Although Hermoso is a couple years younger. Don't know much about him but unless he is MUCH better than Mings I'm not sure if it's necessary. Then again that's different if/when one of Digne or Moreno move on. The problem is we wont know until season starts can we run risk of having defensive issues like last season? Its a gamble i dont think im willing to take this season with so much at stake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 He’d be a good signing, essentially replacing Langlet as Pau’s back up. However he offers so much more than Carlos, who has (for me) been extremely disappointing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 9 hours ago, CVByrne said: There's no chance he was on 140k. He does according to a website that says Jan Oblak on 400k a week. As in total bs. The reports from Italy seem to be around €90k and three years are the offers he's getting. Napoli for example. That seems about right. I'd say Chambers is on £50k as he joined as a senior player so that's €60k so 2/3rd of the reported offer in Italy for Hermoso Premier League wages are higher than elsewhere. It's why we compete with all bar the Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and PSGs of Europe for players Italy report wages after tax, so it’d be more like €150-60k per week pre tax. He looks an okay player, but a left footed centre back should not be a priority. We need a beast to play alongside Torres, not to deputise for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Most would think a right sided centre back is needed but maybe Hermoso is arriving soon—how would we set up? How would he fit in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Most would think a right sided centre back is needed but maybe Hermoso is arriving soon—how would we set up? How would he fit in? We must be getting close to the record number of left footers in a squad. As a fellow left footer I’m delighted after decades of being in the minority. Left footers are about to take over the world. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 MercadoATM reckons we have won the race for him. No idea who this person is or how accurate so take woth a pinch of salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 According to Twatter he has either signed for us, Inter have signed him or Inter think he is too old to sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 7 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 7 Is he better than Lenglet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 35 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Most would think a right sided centre back is needed but maybe Hermoso is arriving soon—how would we set up? How would he fit in? People put too much weight on having left and right footed CB combo. It's not that important. Also it wouldn't surprise me if digne and Moreno left this summer. Hermoso would cover CB and left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, villa89 said: People put too much weight on having left and right footed CB combo. It's not that important. Also it wouldn't surprise me if digne and Moreno left this summer. Hermoso would cover CB and left back. I mean, there’s a reason you rarely see two left footed centre backs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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