thunderball Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Any one got a viewer version of this as it’s behind a paywall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikeyp102 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Interesting comments from Heck. I wasn’t impressed with cancelling the build of the north stand, but this makes sense. Shows he’s a very clever and ambitious person and the club will be moving forward with him at the helm. Again it shows why communication so important and something that could’ve been released directly from the club in November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/06/13/chris-heck-aston-villa-premier-league-champions-league/ Quote The plan to boost their revenue to £400 million by 2027 has been devised by Chris Heck Heck meanwhile has the task of taking Villa into a different league on the balance sheet – adding £200 million over four years. “The first year we were successful,” he says. “We generated £50 million more and that’s our plan to generate £50 million more each year. That has never been done before and we are doing it. We are already well on our way. We were £219 million [annual turnover] so what is the magic number to get to? We think it’s £400 million to get into the game of sustainability. So we were at £219m revenue in 2022/23. We are increasing by £50m per year, so £270m for the season just ended (23/24). Another £50m increase to £320m for this coming season (24/25) from new sponsors, kit, matchday, hospitality, CL prize money. How do we increase by another £100m over the next 2 years to achieve Heck's targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 MoMs on Facebook (sorry I can’t post pic) showing a comparison of income to other clubs. It shows why PSR is a joke and why Heck has a huge job on his hands, even getting to £400m keeps us below the big 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, mikeyp102 said: MoMs on Facebook (sorry I can’t post pic) showing a comparison of income to other clubs. It shows why PSR is a joke and why Heck has a huge job on his hands, even getting to £400m keeps us below the big 6 I mean Spurs weren't the original part of the big four that dominated financially, they rapidly rose through shrewd management in 2010s to get to that point. Surely they have to be the model to emulate? Of course they have several advantages we can't compete with, but regardless they managed to bridge the gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 12 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: MoMs on Facebook (sorry I can’t post pic) showing a comparison of income to other clubs. It shows why PSR is a joke and why Heck has a huge job on his hands, even getting to £400m keeps us below the big 6 Here's a quick summary: Man City £702m Man U £633m Liverpool £580m Spurs £536m Chelsea £500m Arsenal £452m With Villa on £219m for the same year (22/23). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 How do Chelsea do it with a stadium smaller than ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, TOTTI-THE-GOD said: How do Chelsea do it with a stadium smaller than ours? Masses of time having a really good product, and London as a tourist base for that product. Non Villa fans haven't wanted to watch Villa play football for about 20 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, TOTTI-THE-GOD said: How do Chelsea do it with a stadium smaller than ours? Sponsorship largely. They drive more revenue from the stadium, but it's not a massive revenue driver. They and Liverpool have had Purslow to thank for some of the best sponsorship deals in Premier League history. To get there you need on field success. Heck himself will drive less of any increase in that than Unai does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allani Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Interesting comments from Heck. I wasn’t impressed with cancelling the build of the north stand, but this makes sense. Shows he’s a very clever and ambitious person and the club will be moving forward with him at the helm. Again it shows why communication so important and something that could’ve been released directly from the club in November There may have been very good reasons why certain communications weren't possible in November from a confidentiality / commercial perspective. I am sure that there are a few things that the club and Heck will acknowledge that they've not done well (Heck himself alluded to this in the interview with Gabby) but we have appreciate that at times there will be very genuine reasons why the club are unable to say much / anything even if they wanted to. For example, it is absurd to believe that the club should answer specific PSR questions on upcoming periods - as any answer they give could massively impact ongoing or future negotiations. Last year Spurs knew that Forest were in trouble and so deliberately low-balled on their offers thinking that Forest would be forced to accept. The madness of PSR is that Forest held out, got a much better price and yet this was deemed less financially responsible than accepting a derisory bid that hugely undervalued a significant asset (if you assume PSR is about promoting sustainability and sound financial management). I've not seen Heck's comments (due to the paywall) so I'm not sure whether any of what he said could have been released earlier - I suspect commercially and contractually there are probably many areas that officially he couldn't (and even then not commenting was subject to wild speculation). 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 31 minutes ago, Dale said: Sponsorship largely. They drive more revenue from the stadium, but it's not a massive revenue driver. They and Liverpool have had Purslow to thank for some of the best sponsorship deals in Premier League history. To get there you need on field success. Heck himself will drive less of any increase in that than Unai does. Although having access to a wider network of contacts / organisations will also help (especially in the USA as I think there will be companies there willing to spend more money on a successful sports partnership). Ultimately you need a good off field team to make the best of any on field success and minimise the impact when things aren't going so well off the pitch. I think the impact of Heck will generally be underplayed - yes we're a better "prospect" than we were 18 months / 2 years ago but we're still a name that has been off radar for too long and so we can't expect to just suddenly get the level of deals of teams that we're now competing with sporting wise but who've had the best 20 years of commercial and global expansion of the PL to capitalise on. I'm sure he is (with Atairos and Comcast) going to find ways of raising revenue that will be new to Villa and possibly even new (or under-utilised) within the PL. I do wonder whether some of Nas's recent comments are double edged - i.e. it's not right that we can't spend more money when as owners we're good for any short-term losses and are trying to build something special (and ultimately sustainable) but also about laying a case for the value of new revenue streams (i.e. you can't tell us off for spending too much and then moan when we find ingenious ways of improving our revenue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, TOTTI-THE-GOD said: How do Chelsea do it with a stadium smaller than ours? like i said in the Duran thread for a huge number of fans of a certain age Chelsea are the biggest team in england, they're living off the growth in the 00s at the time where Jose had them flying its still not as lucky as spurs when NBC gave the PL a monstrous push in the states they used bale as the face of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 12 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: "We are in a really interesting time of English football right now,” Heck says. “It has been a good decade of big six stability, meaning they have kept everyone out. Newcastle last year, us this year. I think it is changing and I wouldn’t bet against us.” My three main takeaways. (1) We're disappointed that the PSR limit wasn't raised but probably not particularly surprised and not that worried that the proposal was rejected. (2) We're clearly trying to position ourselves as the champions of ambitious owners who don't have the advantages of being in the Top 6. Maybe it didn't work this time but we're looking to build alliances with teams who want more than to finish 12th every season (they will come with us or be left behind). (3) The quote above sums up exactly what I would want our CEO/CFO/COO to be saying. As for the claims that we're sucking up to Man City - I think there's a lot in this statement that shows we're doing nothing of the sort. NSWE are looking out for number 1. PSR (in its current format) makes it easier for City, Chelsea, etc to form their monopoly at the top - so we'll challenge it because it is bad for us not because it's what Nas's apparent new "best mate" wants us to do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) This paints the picture, it shows the legacy of pre FFP and also the money go round that Europe is. This is exactly why the rules have to change, you cant get the revenue without exposure and success, you cant get success without money, the rules dont let you spend enough to compete. Its supports the top 6 cartel. Matchday and merchandising suck. Edited June 14 by thunderball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 16 hours ago, villa4europe said: when NBC gave the PL a monstrous push in the states they used bale as the face of it Hi IS very popular there. In fact he subsequently went on to earn huge fees doing promotional work for a movie franchise. Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, thunderball said: This paints the picture, it shows the legacy of pre FFP and also the money go round that Europe is. This is exactly why the rules have to change, you cant get the revenue without exposure and success, you cant get success without money, the rules dont let you spend enough to compete. Its supports the top 6 cartel. Matchday and merchandising suck. swiss ramble have a breakdown of the PL TV money (im guessing the above includes europe) but that shows how they split it, equal share which is obvious, the facility fees which is a payment made per TV appearance and then the merit payment which is the prize money mad that we have a "fair" financial system that is so blatantly designed to keep the top teams at the top, man city get £14m more than wolves per season because sky put man city on tv more but if wolves make some sound investment choices and run themselves well maybe one day they'll catch up with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Football insider - a notorious site for lying claim we have broken our revenue record for last season where is w.as 260m. Incredible if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, Demitri_C said: Football insider - a notorious site for lying claim we have broken our revenue record for last season where is w.as 260m. Incredible if true. We made 217 I think last season, and Heck has said we increased it by 50mill the season just ended. 260 sounds about right. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Football insider - a notorious site for lying claim we have broken our revenue record for last season where is w.as 260m. Incredible if true. This post took me on a journey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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