duke313 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Ings is a valuable player for us, especially in a 5 subs season where we can go like for like with subs. We need to be able to bring a CF on for a CF in a 4 3 1 2 system. Probably the reason we will see Archer stick around rather than going straight out on loan, at least until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, duke313 said: Probably the reason we will see Archer stick around rather than going straight out on loan, at least until January. Yeah we need 4 CFs in the squad next season. So Archer sticking around and a new CF signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: Yeah we need 4 CFs in the squad next season. So Archer sticking around and a new CF signing. I think Gerrard would be happy with Watkins, Ings, Archer and then maybe Suarez on a free. If Ings and Watkins aren't doing it up front , then you bring on Archer and Suarez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Just now, duke313 said: I think Gerrard would be happy with Watkins, Ings, Archer and then maybe Suarez on a free. If Ings and Watkins aren't doing it up front , then you bring on Archer and Suarez. I'd be happy with that too. Watkins + Ings or Suarez. Archer learning from them and getting time off the bench too. Loan back to Championship in Jan to bang in goals and then he should be ready for us and more regular Prem football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 He'll be dropped for Burnley. Which will be a mistake because he's getting into all the right areas and his all round game is solid he's just not finding the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I think his misses on Sunday have been overexaggerated as well. They were not easy chances and one was just outside the box Both chances came from his clever movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, duke313 said: Hasn't he been injured half the season? Officially missed 4 months. Struggled badly for match fitness/sharpness since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAN Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Poor old Ingsy...half the player he used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, rodders0223 said: He'll be dropped for Burnley. Which will be a mistake because he's getting into all the right areas and his all round game is solid he's just not finding the net. I wouldn't be opposed to him keeping his place and Coutinho dropping out for Buendia. I would imagine the chances of that are remote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 19 hours ago, VillaChris said: I've generally been disappointed with him this season tbh. Watched him a fair bit at Southampton and he was always buzzing around the CBs. I know he has a few goals and assists but generally never get the feeling he's going to score at an important moment or even be in the game much. Just have to hope for better next season I guess. Yes thats exactly how I feel. I expected a bit of a dip from Watkins but at 29 Ings should be at his peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 5 hours ago, CVByrne said: Yeah we need 4 CFs in the squad next season. So Archer sticking around and a new CF signing. If we decide to stick with 2 up top, yep. I hope we do FWIW as it seems to work reasonably well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, lexicon said: If we decide to stick with 2 up top, yep. I hope we do FWIW as it seems to work reasonably well. It works better than the two 10s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: I wouldn't be opposed to him keeping his place and Coutinho dropping out for Buendia. I would imagine the chances of that are remote. Have we tried Coutinho-Ings-Buendia up front yet? I can't remember that but I'd like to see it. I know we've had Coutinho-Watkins-Buendia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TomC said: Have we tried Coutinho-Ings-Buendia up front yet? I can't remember that but I'd like to see it. I know we've had Coutinho-Watkins-Buendia... I don't think we have. We did have Ings up top with Buendia and Traore in the 10 roles against Brentford. Edit: The three played in our home defeat to Watford. That was the catalyst for going to Ings and Watkins up top Edited May 17, 2022 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, TomC said: Have we tried Coutinho-Ings-Buendia up front yet? I can't remember that but I'd like to see it. I know we've had Coutinho-Watkins-Buendia... We can't do that because Tyrone ends up hoofing it so often. We need Ollie on the pitch to try and make something of said hoofs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Just now, Tomaszk said: We can't do that because Tyrone ends up hoofing it so often. We need Ollie on the pitch to try and make something of said hoofs. We have to hoof it because we don;t have the players in CDM and CB to play out from the back. We will with a new CB and CDM signed in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Edit: The three played in our home defeat to Watford. That was the catalyst for going to Ings and Watkins up top Well, if we lost to Watford with those 3, maybe it isn't such a great idea! 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: We can't do that because Tyrone ends up hoofing it so often. We need Ollie on the pitch to try and make something of said hoofs. Point well taken...Ollie is good at holding up the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 It feels like Coutinho, Buendia and a striker should be able to work but it hasn't so far. I do wonder if this is something they'll work on over the summer or whether they'll stick with the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: We have to hoof it because we don;t have the players in CDM and CB to play out from the back. We will with a new CB and CDM signed in summer. Hopefully. Can't be bothered having the arguments yet, but I think Mings in possession is a big problem for us. Konsa injury has changed things anyway now, but of the two of them, Mings was the one I wanted replacing in the XI. Yes, Konsa has been awful recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Can't be bothered having the arguments yet, but I think Mings in possession is a big problem for us. Mings is the only CB who can carry and pick a pass at the club, although Chambers has shown signs of quality as well in that role. Directly involved in the build up of 6 goals this season. Hause and Konsa are about as much use as a legless horse with the ball at their feet. (Sorry it's the Ings thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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