Czarnikjak Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mister_a said: Yep, the others benched They are benched to accommodate 2 strikers on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_a Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Czarnikjak said: They are benched to accommodate 2 strikers on the pitch. Yep, that’s fairly obvious. I’m not sure what your point is. I’m sure that when Bailey is fit and Buendia has had more time to get used to our style of play (whatever that is), we will have better options. Ings is class, but we might need to go with one up top when our more creative players are up to speed. Which is a shame for Ollie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I still want to see us at full strength and him play as the 10 off Ollie with them Bailey left and Buendia right with then lots of interchanging and floating about Would put one hell of a strain on mcginn and Luiz obviously but in certain home games we can do it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mister_a said: Yep, that’s fairly obvious. I’m not sure what your point is. I’m sure that when Bailey is fit and Buendia has had more time to get used to our style of play (whatever that is), we will have better options. Ings is class, but we might need to go with one up top when our more creative players are up to speed. Which is a shame for Ollie. My point is that when these creative players play, Ings will not benefit from it as he will be on the bench. Ings is not suited to play single striker as well as Ollie is, he just doesn't have the physical presence to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_a Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: My point is that when these creative players play, Ings will not benefit from it as he will be on the bench. Ings is not suited to play single striker as well as Ollie is, he just doesn't have the physical presence to do it. Well, I could agree with you if we had last seasons Ollie, but I'm not sure where he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mister_a said: Well, I could agree with you if we had last seasons Ollie, but I'm not sure where he's gone. To join up with England He had disrupted preseason but he will come back stronger from the internalitonal break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Poor today but let’s be honest we created absolutey nothing for him and we barely played any football. Ings will come good, but we might need to revert to one up top for some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: He'd be great if we could ever give him any decent chances Can he not create for himself though? I mean we had this debate about Darren Bent a decade ago. Generally the modern forward in premier league nowadays can create stuff by himself. Bailey for example just took a punt over halfway line v Everton and scored. Ollie scored probably 33% of his goals last season through hard work and dribbling past a few players. Just having penalty box strikers won't work in all games so I'd like to see in a few games when he's fit Watkins and Bailey as front two if we keep 3-5-2 as think that's a combination that could link up well and cause plenty of issues to backlines. Didn't Ings smash one in from 25 yards v us last season? So he dosen't just need cross after cross to score (and indeed that's how our goal came about today). Edited October 3, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: I still want to see us at full strength and him play as the 10 off Ollie with them Bailey left and Buendia right with then lots of interchanging and floating about Would put one hell of a strain on mcginn and Luiz obviously but in certain home games we can do it Need to do it v likes of Burnley and Norwich but think better teams would expose it, bit like what Man. United are putting out currently. Think last 10 minutes showed what we'll do soon, 4-3-3 with Bailey wide right and Ollie wide left given he played last 10 minutes there today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted October 3, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: Can he not create for himself though? I mean we had this debate about Darren Bent a decade ago. Generally the modern forward in premier league nowadays can create stuff by himself. Bailey for example just took a punt over halfway line v Everton and scored. Ollie scored probably 33% of his goals last season through hard work and dribbling past a few players. Just having penalty box strikers won't work in all games so I'd like to see in a few games when he's fit Watkins and Bailey as front two if we keep 3-5-2 as think that's a combination that could link up well and cause plenty of issues to backlines. Didn't Ings smash one in from 25 yards v us last season? So he dosen't just need cross after cross to score (and indeed that's how our goal came about today). He’s got 2 goals and 2 assists in 7 games by creating stuff for himself. And he nearly created one for himself today. And that “punt” for Bailey’s goal was a beautiful outside of the foot volleyed pass from… yep Danny Ings. He does create stuff for himself. My point is if we actually gave him service as well he’d score a hatful 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He’s got 2 goals and 2 assists in 7 games by creating stuff for himself. And he nearly created one for himself today. And that “punt” for Bailey’s goal was a beautiful outside of the foot volleyed pass from… yep Danny Ings. He does create stuff for himself. My point is if we actually gave him service as well he’d score a hatful well said! Not sure why people cant see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He’s got 2 goals and 2 assists in 7 games by creating stuff for himself. And he nearly created one for himself today. And that “punt” for Bailey’s goal was a beautiful outside of the foot volleyed pass from… yep Danny Ings. He does create stuff for himself. My point is if we actually gave him service as well he’d score a hatful Exactly. It's just the usual over reaction to a loss and finding fault where there is none. Danny will be frustrated with himself but he's been great so far. Whole team lacked cohesion and composure today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2021 Ings is a baller. He's got football intelligence, skill, and goal scoring. And he works real hard. I'm more than happy to have him here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 hours ago, foreveryoung said: Ing's was better when Watkin's was injured, says alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 If any of the front two need to be dropped it’s Watkins. That said I don’t see either of them being dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: He’s got 2 goals and 2 assists in 7 games by creating stuff for himself. And he nearly created one for himself today. And that “punt” for Bailey’s goal was a beautiful outside of the foot volleyed pass from… yep Danny Ings. He does create stuff for himself. My point is if we actually gave him service as well he’d score a hatful Just to add to this, before today Danny Ings’ xGI was 1.7 Yet he’s got 4 goal involvements. He is massively overperforming compared to the service he is getting Edited October 3, 2021 by Stevo985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: He’s got 2 goals and 2 assists in 7 games by creating stuff for himself. And he nearly created one for himself today. And that “punt” for Bailey’s goal was a beautiful outside of the foot volleyed pass from… yep Danny Ings. He does create stuff for himself. My point is if we actually gave him service as well he’d score a hatful Not to mention the role he played in creating the chance for Ollie’s goal today, picked up the ball from the foul on Ramsay and slotted it to Targett. He actually does a lot outside the box that I hadn’t appreciated until he came to Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted October 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2021 3-5-2 doesn't suit Danny, as the service from our wide players is pretty awful. We did score a good goal yesterday, and it was the first time I remember Danny getting the ball to feet in/near the box. He had the composure to play in Targett nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Farlz said: If any of the front two need to be dropped it’s Watkins. That said I don’t see either of them being dropped. Watkins is vital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 The problem wasn't Ings or Watkins and their partnership it was those behind them who had a slight drop against a very motivated opponent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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