kidlewis Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Zatman said: For a guy that has done little so far Apps Minutes Goals Assists Premier League 4(6) 443 1 2 EDIT: I am aware he has not scored 443 goals An assist or goal every 147 minutes. If he played every game he’d have 23 goals+assists in a season. also as a sub coming on how much time is he getting in that 443 which makes a difference? Gerrard should be able to look at opposition, look at our squad and make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, useless said: Nine goals and ten assists last season in 30 games in the Bundesliga, 15 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, 28 goals and 22 assists in 120 appearances total in the Bundesliga, 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in the Europa League. He's one of the most proven players at the top level that we have, and sooner we can get him fit and in the team the better, he has the kind of stats the likes St Maximin and Adama can only dream of. He's also managed 3 assists and a goal here with very limited playing time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, Zatman said: For a guy that has done little so far Apps Minutes Goals Assists Premier League 4(6) 443 1 2 EDIT: I am aware he has not scored 443 goals Assists against Watford, Everton and Arsenal. Maybe they're not counting the corner that Digne kindly headed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, avfc1982am said: Read that back to yourself and see who's doing the judging. FFS! He has been poor. I am however not writing him off and saying he's a waste of time. That is was I was referring to. We're allowed to be critical without completely writing someone off. Edited February 14, 2022 by AV82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Well, I was really happy to see him back at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, lexicon said: Well, I was really happy to see him back at least Yep, I'm glad he's back too. Some peeps just don't have a scooby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, AV82 said: He has been poor. I am however not writing him off and saying he's a waste of time. That is was I was referring to. We're allowed to be critical without completely writing someone off. How has he been poor when he’s been injured for most of the time he’s been here? Unless being injured is classed as being poor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: How has he been poor when he’s been injured for most of the time he’s been here? Unless being injured is classed as being poor. He had a run of six games where he was quite poor. Defensively most of all but not sharp going forward either. But I think we’ll need him as one of the 10s going forward, Coutinho will probably not play every game, and I believe he has the quality needed to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: How has he been poor when he’s been injured for most of the time he’s been here? Unless being injured is classed as being poor. .. when he came on he looked poor? Is that so hard to understand? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, AV82 said: .. when he came on he looked poor? Is that so hard to understand? Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 56 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Oh dear. Quality back and forth. Great discussion. Much forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 hours ago, AV82 said: .. when he came on he looked poor? Is that so hard to understand? You didn't say that though did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 hours ago, AV82 said: Quality back and forth. Great discussion. Much forum. Never mind bub. You have a good day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 15 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said: He had a run of six games where he was quite poor. Defensively most of all but not sharp going forward either. But I think we’ll need him as one of the 10s going forward, Coutinho will probably not play every game, and I believe he has the quality needed to improve. He's not had a run of 6 games here, what are you on about? A run of 6 games would be that he started 6 games and had the opportunity to impact the games meaningfully - as it is he's only started 4 games, 2 x 2 games consecutively and in second game of the second stint he was off injured after 31 minutes. Anyone with a modicum of sense or patience should be able to see that he's not had a chance to get going yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 He has barely played and now I doubt Gerrard is going to play him in his system. Him and Ings have been a huge expenditure for a very little return so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I mean, he just came back from a long-term injury and played a few minutes. Did anyone really expect him to be firing on all cylinders? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrBlack Posted February 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 hours ago, AV82 said: Quality back and forth. Great discussion. Much forum. The issue you've got is your called him abysmal, and then poor, and then retreated to he looked poor when he came on. Your first post was all encompassing of his playing time here, which was then countered with stats showing he's actually got a pretty good goal/assist per minute return. Especially so when you consider a significant portion of his time has been for sub appearances. If you don't want to judge him on playing a bit part in a new side in a new league, don't call him "abysmal". 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: He has barely played and now I doubt Gerrard is going to play him in his system. Him and Ings have been a huge expenditure for a very little return so far. Gerrard started him in this system pre injury . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, osmark86 said: I mean, he just came back from a long-term injury and played a few minutes. Did anyone really expect him to be firing on all cylinders? Apparently so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, lexicon said: Apparently so. Some of the members on this board… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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