Stevo985 Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just now, A'Villan said: His first touch against Newcastle after coming on that earned us a free kick on the right flank not far from the byline. And, if you haven't seen it: one touch and a youtube video from before he joined us isn't particularly relevant imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: one touch and a youtube video from before he joined us isn't particularly relevant imo Fair enough. It was a few touches before he was fouled. I think he'll go on to be of the calibre of Adama Traore or Saint Maximum. Maybe better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I've been very forward with my views on our Summer window. It was a complete mess. Bailey and Ings were brought in without any plan or idea to use them. It may have been a data decision, I don't know. We signed Buendia to play alongside Grealish behind Watkins. Fine. But then Grealish left and we signed Ings and Bailey. Why? Why did we sign another striker on huge money and another right sided attacker when we'd signed Buendia to play there? And then, to top it all off, we moved to a 3-5-2 which exclusively doesn't use wingers, nor a number 10 (Buendia). It was a mess and it was ill thought out. Purslow himself admitted it was a mess, he just didn't realise he had when he said they'd replaced Grealish's output with the players they'd signed. That's a bonkers way of working. You can't just tally up his goals and assists and bring in players who play different positions with similar numbers in a hope to recreate that. At least in January, we signed Coutinho to finally replace the gaping hole left by Grealish. Anyway, back on topic. Bailey is collateral damage in the change of system and manager. I actually think he's got a lot of potential, but i'll be god damned if I know how he's going to fit into this system and show it. He's been unlucky with injury, hasn't really got a run of games. I think we'll see him as one of the narrow 10s, SG had Ryan Kent playing a similar role at rangers and he's traditionally a winger, so perhaps he will try Bailey in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, duke313 said: He's been unlucky with injury, hasn't really got a run of games. I think we'll see him as one of the narrow 10s, SG had Ryan Kent playing a similar role at rangers and he's traditionally a winger, so perhaps he will try Bailey in that role. I hope we see a lot of him too, but he's vying for that place with Coutinho and Buendia, so it's a tall order for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 Nine goals and ten assists last season in 30 games in the Bundesliga, 15 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, 28 goals and 22 assists in 120 appearances total in the Bundesliga, 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in the Europa League. He's one of the most proven players at the top level that we have, and sooner we can get him fit and in the team the better, he has the kind of stats the likes St Maximin and Adama can only dream of. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, useless said: Nine goals and ten assists last season in 30 games in the Bundesliga, 15 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, 28 goals and 22 assists in 120 appearances total in the Bundesliga, 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in the Europa League. He's one of the most proven players at the top level that we have, and sooner we can get him fit and in the team the better, he has the kind of stats the likes St Maximin and Adama can only dream of. Spot on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, useless said: Nine goals and ten assists last season in 30 games in the Bundesliga, 15 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, 28 goals and 22 assists in 120 appearances total in the Bundesliga, 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in the Europa League. He's one of the most proven players at the top level that we have, and sooner we can get him fit and in the team the better, he has the kind of stats the likes St Maximin and Adama can only dream of. Nobody is doubting those stats, but where does he fit in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, useless said: Nine goals and ten assists last season in 30 games in the Bundesliga, 15 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, 28 goals and 22 assists in 120 appearances total in the Bundesliga, 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in the Europa League. He's one of the most proven players at the top level that we have, and sooner we can get him fit and in the team the better, he has the kind of stats the likes St Maximin and Adama can only dream of. He has one less assist than Saint-Maximin and he started 4 games, ASM started 22 He probably has the same as Traore has in his last 2 Premier League seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 He's been abysmal but, like others, deserves time and to not be judged on a few minutes here and there in a limping side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Nobody is doubting those stats, but where does he fit in? That is what I am worried about. We seemed so strategic in summer 2019 with the players we brought in to fit a system.2020 was a bit of a dogs breakfast in all honesty. And now we have changed the manager who has different ideas than Deano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said: That is what I am worried about. We seemed so strategic in summer 2019 with the players we brought in to fit a system.2020 was a bit of a dogs breakfast in all honesty. And now we have changed the manager who has different ideas than Deano. Yep. We bought one of the most highly sought after wingers in Europe and now we don't play with wingers. I really want Bailey to get a run, but I just don't know how we're going to go about doing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just now, Delphinho123 said: Yep. We bought one of the most highly sought after wingers in Europe and now we don't play with wingers. I really want Bailey to get a run, but I just don't know how we're going to go about doing that. The Gerrard rumours had been about since the end of 2020 as well. So if we were very interested then why would we sign a big money winger when we were going to bin Smith eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: That is what I am worried about. We seemed so strategic in summer 2019 with the players we brought in to fit a system.2020 was a bit of a dogs breakfast in all honesty. And now we have changed the manager who has different ideas than Deano. Yep, no strategic thinking in terms of which top class manager fits these players. Just a punt on a manager who'd done well in a two team league against Neil Lennon. His tactics are very rigid and easy to work out weakness of (the flanks); and now he has a bunch of better managers around him with the personnel to make an impact. I think he's getting found out in all honesty, I hope I'm profoundly wrong. Bailey is a fantastic player who if he doesn't fit the system, we need to consider the system and play different systems in different games. Edited February 14, 2022 by Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, AV82 said: He's been abysmal but, like others, deserves time and to not be judged on a few minutes here and there in a limping side. Read that back to yourself and see who's doing the judging. FFS! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Ryan Kent played every game for Rangers when available, he's much closer in style to Bailey than he is to either Buendia or Coutinho, so no reason why Bailey can't be used in the same way. At Rangers Gerrard also often used to play Roofe as a wide forward, Bailey can be used like that as well, this idea that he always plays with two No.10s is a bit of a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Fair enough. It was a few touches before he was fouled. I think he'll go on to be of the calibre of Adama Traore or Saint Maximum. Maybe better. Which would be great, and he has lots of potential and I hope he realises it with us But he's shown very very little in a Villa shirt thus far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Which would be great, and he has lots of potential and I hope he realises it with us But he's shown very very little in a Villa shirt thus far He's played very little in a Villa shirt in fairness to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Which would be great, and he has lots of potential and I hope he realises it with us But he's shown very very little in a Villa shirt thus far I think that's a tad harsh purely because he's played the equivalent of less than 5 games for us. I feel gutted for the lad because he's an absolute baller but his settled has been completely derailed by injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2022 53 minutes ago, bobzy said: I think that's a tad harsh purely because he's played the equivalent of less than 5 games for us. I feel gutted for the lad because he's an absolute baller but his settled has been completely derailed by injury. I don't know why it's harsh. I'm not writing him off or questioning his ability. I'm just stating we've seen very little from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) For a guy that has done little so far Apps Minutes Goals Assists Premier League 4(6) 443 1 2 EDIT: I am aware he has not scored 443 goals Edited February 14, 2022 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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