Adam2003 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: I've made my thoughts clear. The original article reads... Author understands Villa are looking to sign midfielders. JWP is a good midfielder that scored a lot of free kicks. You know I also thought that on first read but on review the opening sentence is very clear that we plan to put a bid in. And Doyle of all journos (as in my biased opinion the best Villa match report writer - doesn’t mean he has the best contacts of course and transfer rumours are not his thing, but he is at every game) has very little reason to just make it up. I think the rest of his article (to your post above) is saying “if it’s not JWP they want someone like that” but it’s a confident opening from a ‘real’ journalist not a rumourmonger. But I agree with many of the posters on here that I can’t see it happening, I don’t think we will pay what they would want so our ‘set to make a bid’ will likely quickly become ‘have had a bid rejected’. As will happen with a number of targets we don’t even hear the original rumour about I’d guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 53 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I posted a lot early thread then went to bed. Surprised more people aren't reading the initial article at face value and seeing there's no there there. Didn't take long after it broke for some journos to tweet Saints have not received any bids and he's not for sale in any case. Guardian generally don't post speculative pap and Paul Doyle is also the Midlands correspondent for them. Not saying they'll sell. FWIW I don't think they will. But if he's writing that we have an interest in the player I think it's a bit more than Grealish's recent comments + WP's dead ball stats = newspaper filler. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kiwivillan Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HolteExile said: Guardian generally don't post speculative pap and Paul Doyle is also the Midlands correspondent for them. Not saying they'll sell. FWIW I don't think they will. But if he's writing that we have an interest in the player I think it's a bit more than Grealish's recent comments + WP's dead ball stats = newspaper filler. I was saying to a mate the other week no other major sports league I can think of gets away with people touting baseless transfer rumours to level of UK football https://www.footballtransferleague.co.uk/sources/the_guardian Edited June 7, 2021 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MessiWillSignForVilla Posted June 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I was saying to a mate the other week no other major sports league I can think of gets away with people touting baseless transfer rumours to level of UK football https://www.footballtransferleague.co.uk/sources/the_guardian That link you've provided says that the Guardian is the most reliable when it comes to transfer rumours. Also, whilst some journos will make shit up, there must be 100s of deals every window that fall through for one reason or another, just because they get reported and don't come off doesn't mean it's baseless. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maqroll Posted June 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Even if we don't bid, or have a bid rejected, I like this new swagger about the club. We are no longer the pushovers of yesteryear. Edited June 7, 2021 by maqroll 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, KMitch said: Quality and simple what he does. Wins tackles, runs with the ball into space if it's available and tries to play a forward ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Salad Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 We really need some help on set pieces for sure and I think that he would bring some good leadership qualities that we were lacking at times as well. However, I think at the end of the day, just think a small percentage that we will get him as I'm sure the Saints will want a pretty hefty sum for their captain. Love though if this speculation is true is that Smith and company are thinking about addressing some aforementioned deficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 If we are targeting him we are also after leaders which is a model I like - Grealish is our captain, Mings is a great leader, McGinn has captained Scotland… but I like bringing in captains. JWP as well as Southampton captain of course was Grealish’s captain for the England U21s - including winning the Toulon tournament. Think they only played 7 games together but still good that they’ve had a decent amount of experience of each other’s game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 He seems a really good player with set-pieces on top. I'm sure I read he's a Southampton lad and fan though or has been there since he was little. Perhaps Southampton have stretched as far as they can as a club but would Villa be enough of a pull to make him move? Interesting. The pace, whip and bend on his crosses are class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wezbid said: He seems a really good player with set-pieces on top. I'm sure I read he's a Southampton lad and fan though or has been there since he was little. Perhaps Southampton have stretched as far as they can as a club but would Villa be enough of a pull to make him move? Interesting. The pace, whip and bend on his crosses are class. Someone posted earlier he and family are Portsmouth fans but he joined Southampton at young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Is this a done deal then and I must admit iknowvwey little about this guy so I guess I'm going off what you guys know of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Is this a done deal then Ha not even close for my money. I’m a fan of the player, and I believe there is a chance we are interested, but I don’t think we have even put a bid in yet (the story itself just says we are preparing to do so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I think it will happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Adam2003 said: Ha not even close for my money. I’m a fan of the player, and I believe there is a chance we are interested, but I don’t think we have even put a bid in yet (the story itself just says we are preparing to do so). I just seen on media that we had done two deals today and one was this guy Adam. I immediately rushed here to see if this was true. Like I said I don't know much about the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave-R said: I just seen on media that we had done two deals today and one was this guy Adam. I immediately rushed here to see if this was true. Like I said I don't know much about the guy. Sorry I was just answering you not being sarky - my ‘ha’ was just for the situation if that came over wrong! It sounds like we will put a bid in (if you believe Paul Doyle in the Guardian) but no guarantee it will be accepted or we will get close to Southampton’s valuation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 The more I think about it, the more I want this signing to happen. We could use a snarling free kick assassin in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 He wears black boots, too. I'll kick in a few quid myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: Ha not even close for my money. I’m a fan of the player, and I believe there is a chance we are interested, but I don’t think we have even put a bid in yet (the story itself just says we are preparing to do so). Preparing a bid is clever language that allows wiggle room. Funny that not a peep from John Percy. Have the Telegraph ran a story based on initial one like other outlets? Seems pretty fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, joshharris12 said: I think it will happen I don't disagree. Smith said he was "excited" and that we want "quality". Signing JWP and Buendia would be a shot across the bow of the league and we will be considered contenders for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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