WallisFrizz Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: Well yes of course because that would mean he is actually achieving what we have paid him to do? I think the point possibly being made is that our strikers aren’t converting his chances which is out of his control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted December 30, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 28/12/2021 at 14:50, Delphinho123 said: He’s not a scapegoat, people are rightly calling him out on his poor performances. Losing the ball and misplacing passes are nothing to do with adjusting to a new system or the manager. Stop making excuses for him. Yes, we all want him to do well, but to say he’s been anything other than poor since joining is just wishful thinking. He needs to be much better. I don't think he's been poor. I'm not saying he's set the league on fire, but he's not poor. He'll benefit when we find another number ten to play next to him consistently. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Not really read into it too heavily but I'm surprised to see there's criticism of Buendia. So much of what he does is craftily worked and he almost always delivers the skill to go with the bright idea. Admittedly it's not ended up in us converting goals as often as we'd like, but it's fairly clear to see his influence on build up play that leads to decent, if not great opportunities to have the ball in the final third and threaten goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Not really read into it too heavily but I'm surprised to see there's criticism of Buendia. So much of what he does is craftily worked and he almost always delivers the skill to go with the bright idea. Admittedly it's not ended up in us converting goals as often as we'd like, but it's fairly clear to see his influence on build up play that leads to decent, if not great opportunities to have the ball in the final third and threaten goal. Have you not seen him lose possession on numerous occasions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Have you not seen him lose possession on numerous occasions? I haven't been following as closely as I have done for the last decade, relying mostly on 9, 24 or 45 minute highlight reels provided by my PL subscription. However, regardless, I suppose that comes with the territory of being a player who's entire repertoire and value comes in the attacking half and predominantly final third. Buendias passing ability and vision can't always ensure that everyone is ideally positioned to allow him to thread it through. And I wouldn't say it's his fault if we aren't good enough to defend more often than not, which has seemed to be the case under Gerrard from what I can see. In open play it's a counter or break in transition that allows us our best moves going forward. If Buendia isn't suited to the tactics and formation so be it, but there's no denying he is an excellent player on the ball and in creating space and opportunities for the team to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted January 1, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 hours ago, A'Villan said: If Buendia isn't suited to the tactics and formation so be it, but there's no denying he is an excellent player on the ball and in creating space and opportunities for the team to score. I think he's perfectly suited to the tactics and formation - it's the lack of others that aren't suited that's perhaps an issue - Bailey, Traore, El Ghazi and JPB aren't a natural fit into this system and for them it'll be learn or move. I think Buendia on the other hand is nailed on to start for a while. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HalfTimePost Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Have you not seen him lose possession on numerous occasions? Watkins loses the ball more than Buendia. Buendia has been dispossessed 10 times more than Ramsey, but Ramsey has had 7 more unsuccessful touches that have lost the ball. So overall, Buendia has lost the ball 3 times more than Starboy Ramsey. Watkins is worse than Buendia in both stats. Although tbf has played a lot more football. Ramsey though has only played 30 mins more. He's a creative, flair player. He's going to lose the ball. But he's not been a disaster. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think he's perfectly suited to the tactics and formation - it's the lack of others that aren't suited that's perhaps an issue - Bailey, Traore, El Ghazi and JPB aren't a natural fit into this system and for them it'll be learn or move. I think Buendia on the other hand is nailed on to start for a while. I think he's ability to thread balls through behind opposition defensive lines and into space for the forwards will be invaluable. As well as his ability in tight spaces if we opt for a short passing passage of play. He knows how to pass and move well. So agree with your points, except Traore not being suited. Fully ready I see him thriving on the right. Edited January 1, 2022 by A'Villan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WHY Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 4 hours ago, HalfTimePost said: Watkins loses the ball more than Buendia. Buendia has been dispossessed 10 times more than Ramsey, but Ramsey has had 7 more unsuccessful touches that have lost the ball. So overall, Buendia has lost the ball 3 times more than Starboy Ramsey. Watkins is worse than Buendia in both stats. Although tbf has played a lot more football. Ramsey though has only played 30 mins more. He's a creative, flair player. He's going to lose the ball. But he's not been a disaster. He’s not be good either, highlighting other players stats isn’t going to change it, let’s just be honest. He doesn’t look anywhere near a £38m player so far. I was excited when we signed him but have seen nothing to suggest he’s going to be the player we hoped he would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 3 hours ago, WHY said: He’s not be good either, highlighting other players stats isn’t going to change it, let’s just be honest. He doesn’t look anywhere near a £38m player so far. I was excited when we signed him but have seen nothing to suggest he’s going to be the player we hoped he would be. I love commenting to a specific point and having whataboutery back about a different point. Cheers though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 15 hours ago, WHY said: He’s not be good either, highlighting other players stats isn’t going to change it, let’s just be honest. He doesn’t look anywhere near a £38m player so far. I was excited when we signed him but have seen nothing to suggest he’s going to be the player we hoped he would be. What does a 38 million player look like? Joelinton cost 40, Timo Werner cost nearly 50 Our ex captain cost 100 million and he isnt up to much these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Zatman said: What does a 38 million player look like? Joelinton cost 40, Timo Werner cost nearly 50 Our ex captain cost 100 million and he isnt up to much these days And all 3 are considered disappointments so far. Why would be any different with Buendia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Buendia will come good. He's been better since the formation changed after Gerrard arrived. Our attacking play will be the last piece of the puzzle so I expect when Gerrard has a full pre season with the team we'll see the biggest improvements from our attack. Our attacking 5 for Chelsea was Targett, Ings, Watkins, Buendia and Cash. I think that will be the most common, with Bailey in amongst them too. So much to learn in how the full backs play and how the central 3 need in movement. We will see Buendia at his best then so I'm happy with what I've seen so far he has the talent and clearly is driven and cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 21 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I think he's perfectly suited to the tactics and formation - it's the lack of others that aren't suited that's perhaps an issue - Bailey, Traore, El Ghazi and JPB aren't a natural fit into this system and for them it'll be learn or move. I think Buendia on the other hand is nailed on to start for a while. moving forward, I don't see 2 wingers being used.Too much of a luxury, maybe one, yes, at any one time. We need industry and consistency, and by definition, wingers rarely provide that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Two beautiful passes from Buendia already after 16 minutes. One an assist. Very very bright start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Unbelievable assist. Hopefully that kick starts him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Filthy but genuinely arousing. This is the combo that will get Emi near the top of the assist charts end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) wants the ball, pass, move, moment of magic, perfect through ball - goal. This is what I have been going on about, he does these things all the time, but often gets unnoticed, this time he had Douggie to play one two with and a top striker who makes the right run and can finish. Very promising! Edited January 2, 2022 by Keener window-cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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