mjmooney Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said: One for the drummers and sabbath fans. Not saying bill was the best but he had his own way of playing and I love his style. I'm not the biggest Sabbath fan, but BW is a great drummer. You can hear the jazz influences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 6 hours ago, mjmooney said: I'm not the biggest Sabbath fan, but BW is a great drummer. You can hear the jazz influences. Great bloke too . A lot of musicians from that era were very well educated in terms of music with what came before them. Just naturals. I like drummers that bring those jazz elements to a band. Unfortunately for bill he lost his edge in the 80s and beyond. Addictions issues made him homeless and begging on the streets of LA. He turned his life around but never kept himself fit and heart problems followed. He’s been sober since the mid 80s mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Bill Ward - yep great rock drummer IMO. He was even in the Musicians Union; their booklet published his address at the time ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Any used record shop will give you a decent copy of this for under a tenner. Discogs has them for £10 including postage. I paid £6 for an as new perfect copy. HMV: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 11 Moderator Share Posted August 11 17 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Any used record shop will give you a decent copy of this for under a tenner. Discogs has them for £10 including postage. I paid £6 for an as new perfect copy. HMV: It's ONLY £29.99 at the Indie HMV … and that’s still at least £10 too much for a back catalogue repress of an album made 50 years ago. The costs apart from the physical materials are vastly reduced. Remember back in the distant past, you used to be able to buy cheaper back catalogue albums in ranges like Nice Price, that’s the way it should be now. My copy of Marquee Moon still has the Nice Price sticker on it and it wasn’t that many years after it was originally released. Sure, it’s quite a thin record but all that audiophile 180g pressing nonsense is a con. My copy of Marquee Moon must be 40+ years old now and still sounds absolutely great. Most people don’t have the ears or the equipment to notice any discernible difference between a normal record and an audiophile pressing. Most of those that claim they can are just pretentious lying knobs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 6 minutes ago, bickster said: It's ONLY £29.99 at the Indie HMV … and that’s still at least £10 too much for a back catalogue repress of an album made 50 years ago. The costs apart from the physical materials are vastly reduced. Remember back in the distant past, you used to be able to buy cheaper back catalogue albums in ranges like Nice Price, that’s the way it should be now. My copy of Marquee Moon still has the Nice Price sticker on it and it wasn’t that many years after it was originally released. Sure, it’s quite a thin record but all that audiophile 180g pressing nonsense is a con. My copy of Marquee Moon must be 40+ years old now and still sounds absolutely great. Most people don’t have the ears or the equipment to notice any discernible difference between a normal record and an audiophile pressing. Most of those that claim they can are just pretentious lying knobs. Take it you aren’t a member of Steve Hoffman forums ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 11 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11 5 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Take it you aren’t a member of Steve Hoffman forums ? I am, but the only thread I'm following is the one for the Joni Mitchell archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, bickster said: It's ONLY £29.99 at the Indie HMV … and that’s still at least £10 too much for a back catalogue repress of an album made 50 years ago. The costs apart from the physical materials are vastly reduced. Remember back in the distant past, you used to be able to buy cheaper back catalogue albums in ranges like Nice Price, that’s the way it should be now. My copy of Marquee Moon still has the Nice Price sticker on it and it wasn’t that many years after it was originally released. Sure, it’s quite a thin record but all that audiophile 180g pressing nonsense is a con. My copy of Marquee Moon must be 40+ years old now and still sounds absolutely great. Most people don’t have the ears or the equipment to notice any discernible difference between a normal record and an audiophile pressing. Most of those that claim they can are just pretentious lying knobs. One of the eBay shops I follow regularly has used hifi equipment priced in the thousands, and I don’t mean a hifi set up, I mean a cartridge, or some cables. I think that’s just a whole different hobby that feeds in to this whole audiophile thing. Personally, I like records, if I had good ears and an interest in perfection I’d surely be going digital and building an acoustic listening room. But I’ve got tinnitus and solid bouncy walls and a giant dining table in the room and I’m listening to records that were recorded whilst someone chatted in the background. So yeah, I’ll happily pick up the Nice Price version. That was basically the conversation in Spillers yesterday when I returned records I said were fine to be sold. The question was, as someone of a certain age that buys vinyl, was I happy with the quality of those records or would I have returned them if I hadn’t been warned. They were absolutely fine and anybody not cleaning a record and then expecting perfection is just that pretentious dim knob. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 5 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I am, but the only thread I'm following is the one for the Joni Mitchell archives. It’s a decent forum but full of those twits Bicks doesn’t like some very good info on there if needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 11 Moderator Share Posted August 11 39 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Take it you aren’t a member of Steve Hoffman forums ? No idea what they even are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 9 minutes ago, bickster said: No idea what they even are. Music forums among one or two other things. A lot of audiophiles on there . Good stuff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 11 Moderator Share Posted August 11 Well that’s pissed on my chips. Marquee Moon is currently £15.99 in HMV (£26 in Norman on coloured vinyl and £28 on clear in RT) Previous price in HMV £35 (it’s currently in a sale) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 11 Moderator Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said: Music forums among one or two other things. A lot of audiophiles on there . Good stuff though. Sounds like something I'd hate. Audiophile rocket polishing isn’t something I’d want to engage with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Today I learned that the debut self titled album by Boston isn't a spaceship on the cover, its an upside down guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 11 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11 46 minutes ago, Seat68 said: Today I learned that the debut self titled album by Boston isn't a spaceship on the cover, its an upside down guitar. Well, a guitar-shaped spaceship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 12 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well, a guitar-shaped spaceship. It looks like a guitar shaped guitar to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: Today I learned that the debut self titled album by Boston isn't a spaceship on the cover, its an upside down guitar. You really are branching out into the rock world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 22 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: You really are branching out into the rock world I thought my music taste was wide and varied. Clearly its not coming across as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 11 Moderator Share Posted August 11 33 minutes ago, Seat68 said: It looks like a guitar shaped guitar to me. So it’s more than a feeling then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 11 Moderator Share Posted August 11 33 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: You really are branching out into the rock world Would you call Boston Rock? Or Muzak for Poodle Parlours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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