sidcow Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: Obviously shopped. The suns out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 23, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, sidcow said: Claudio Ranieri? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Georgie is also the patron saint of Bulgaria among others. So that’s a National day for @AVFC_Hitz I think? I’m part Bulgarian. As I was born in England, I just need to catch syphilis in order to complete the St George hat trick. Celebrated on May 6th in Bulgaria. Georgiovden. We do indeed get a day off! Quite a few holidays coming up for me. Next Friday is good Friday and then I have the 3rd off for May Day, and then the 6th then Culture and Literacy day on the 23rd of may. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Follyfoot said: We ain’t perfect, not by a long way but there ain’t no place I’d rather be Sometimes I daydream about living in a quaint English country village in a thatched roof house with a wood stove and a little garden. It will never happen, but it's a lovely daydream. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, maqroll said: Sometimes I daydream about living in a quaint English country village in a thatched roof house with a wood stove and a little garden. It will never happen, but it's a lovely daydream. Me too. Although the place we have is not too far off it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sharkyvilla Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Patriotism isn't something that occupies my mind at all really. I generally find when I go somewhere abroad on holiday their patriotism quite charming when seeing their flags and different customs and culture though. Edited April 23, 2021 by sharkyvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 Patriotism also feeds nationalism, which feeds wars. As a good socialist I believe a working class English person has more in common with a working class {insert any nationality} than with an English aristocrat or capitalist. Discuss. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Patriotism also feeds nationalism, which feeds wars. Nowhere near as much as religion though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 There are some achingly beautiful parts of England. I've driven through some amazing hamlets and villages on my travels. For such a small country, a lot of counties seem to have different characteristics and styles about them. Norfolk is different to Herefordshire, which is different to Berkshire or North Yorkshire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Was working today , but will be out tomorrow on a pub crawl with some mates to “celebrate” with Belgian , German, Italian and any other country I can find that produces decent beer ... If that makes me Tommy Robinson or Jim Davidson’s new best mate then so be it . Can respect the various comments but can’t help but think VT needs to have a word with itself sometime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, maqroll said: Sometimes I daydream about living in a quaint English country village in a thatched roof house with a wood stove and a little garden. It will never happen, but it's a lovely daydream. Tory! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, Xela said: There are some achingly beautiful parts of England. I've driven through some amazing hamlets and villages on my travels. For such a small country, a lot of counties seem to have different characteristics and styles about them. Norfolk is different to Herefordshire, which is different to Berkshire or North Yorkshire. Yes, for such a small place there is a lot of variation. Even between Cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Nowhere near as much as religion though. They're the evil twins. Just look at the USA's obsession with God and the flag. **** 'em both off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Tory! There's actually a neighborhood in Cambridge, Massachusetts that is called Tory Row. Expensive area! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted May 2, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 23/04/2021 at 13:16, mjmooney said: Manners are a given. If you don't have them, learn them, and people will like you more. Nothing to be 'proud' of. Personal achievements? Yes, they are satisfying. Enjoyable. They make me feel happy. Not proud - too much like blowing your own trumpet for my liking (modesty is such a British thing, eh?) And it overshadows the contributions of others - as a Beach Boys song had it, "You need a mess of help to stand alone" (yes, Margaret, there is such a thing as society). Pride in our children? Same thing - it suggests that they owe it all to us - 'competitive dad' syndrome. As above, I'm delighted and happy for my kids when good things happen to them. I don't puff out my chest and say "That's MY girl". Maybe we're just arguing over words, but I've always been deeply suspicious of the concept of pride. As I said above, shame is the other side of the same coin. If you've done something bad, acknowledge it, apologise, learn from it, and move on. And we shouldn't be apologising for what our ancestors and forebears did. I didn't massacre anybody at Amritsar or Drogheda, nor did our current army or government, nor did anybody alive today. Write it up in the history books, make sure current generations learn about it, and make sure not to repeat it. Apologising now is ridiculous. It's all the same irrational bullshit. Update on ‘pride’ My lad who has really struggling in his team scored a screamer from outside the box to win them a cup game with virtually the last kick of the match and was mobbed by his team mates at the end. The team WhatsApp group is pinging every five minutes with messages of encouragement Sorry ‘being pleased for’ really does not cut it Proud, you bet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2021 Pride in the achievement in one’s kids is one thing. It’s probably semantics. The difference between being proud of someone and being pleased for them isn’t that different at it’s heart. Being proud because a selected bit of countryside in the nation that you were born in looks nice is a bit odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Being proud because a selected bit of countryside in the nation that you were born in looks nice is a bit odd. unless you were a glacier in a former life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted May 2, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Pride in the achievement in one’s kids is one thing. It’s probably semantics. The difference between being proud of someone and being pleased for them isn’t that different at it’s heart. But in this instance it’s 1,000,000 miles away there is a 16 year backstory to my post which I won’t bore you with Any other emotion than pride would not be right if that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 2, 2021 People who have pride in their Christianity amuse me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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