Zatman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, tom_avfc said: This is what I don't really understand. There's a quote from one of the executives involved to say "this isn't what we signed up for". What on Earth did they think they were signing up for? Did they expect that the media and supporters would be perfectly happy with their plans to ruin football? Anybody who takes a step back from this now shouldn't be lauded for doing so. They should be punished for attempting this coup in the first place. Yep if they backtrack they should still be punished, OK i think a lesser punishment but still severe enough. 3 year transfer ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 If its based on popularity not skill you could have a league full of say ancient players like Beckham or shit ones big in their country, like Chinese kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, MachoFantastico said: Almost sounds like some of the teams signed up for discussions about a Champions League alternative, not an absolute confirmation they were participating. Who knows! then they are complete idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Genie said: Simon Jordan saying these clubs need this because they are losing money (due to player wages). It seems to miss the fact that their wage bills will go up as a result. Well, they make more money than other clubs. Seems to me like they are completely mismanaging themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Writing was on the wall for this yesterday as soon as Parliament let rip, but ( C & B specs on) Purslow was very astute getting onto the news at 8am with Villa’s total condemnation. When the dust settles and the ESL is history, Villa will be seen as a club that took a leadership role in standing up for English football. Bodes well for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Genie said: Simon Jordan saying these clubs need this because they are losing money (due to player wages). It seems to miss the fact that their wage bills will go up as a result. I think this is the exact reason behind the move. A lot of the so called big clubs of Europe are financially in a mess (due to Covid, generally poor management etc), not just Barcelona but the likes of Real Madrid have lost a massive amount I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Yep if they backtrack they should still be punished, OK i think a lesser punishment but still severe enough. 3 year transfer ban 5 year embargo, 5 year ban from European tournaments, 75 point deduction next seaaon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 This coup is going as well as the 1944 Hitler assassination attempt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: ...They should be punished for attempting this coup in the first place. Better to talk them down from the ledge before slapping the cuffs on and taking them to jail. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Well, they make more money than other clubs. Seems to me like they are completely mismanaging themselves. The clubs are also not willing to blame themselves. Its like its UEFA fault that Real pay Hazard and Bale about a million a week or Barcelona are doing similar for Coutinho and Griezmann 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Lets hope the club issues a statement similar to Everton now. Condemn this shit from all official channels we can. I would be greatly dissappointed if we do not do as they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 If any clubs need salary caps it's these bunch of morons they've ruined the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Genie said: Simon Jordan saying these clubs need this because they are losing money (due to player wages). It seems to miss the fact that their wage bills will go up as a result. There is an agreement apparently that no club in the ESL will spend anymore than 55% of income on player wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: The league is so Super that one of its clubs is managed by Ryan Mason. And another by OGS, they will not need top managers when they can't lose whatever happens. This will be a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, markavfc40 said: There is an agreement apparently that no club in the ESL will spend anymore than 55% of income on player wages. I can see them all falling out with each other when the rule bending starts. Are they going to govern themselves? Can’t see that ending well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: How are they going to have an ESL world cup if there are only 20 teams as a player pool for all the countries? There will likely not be enough players of the same nationality for more that 4 or 5 international teams, unless they plan to make it a 5-a-side world cup. Yes, this exactly. There are not 11 Egyptians at these clubs, and even if there were, it's very unlikely they would be helpfully distributed one per position. This ESL World Cup idea isn't real, it's just Perez trying to bullshit his way through interviews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The dust will probably settle, they will be on the naughty step for a bit , and slowly most of their demands will probably be given to them in the long term in a re-restructured CL. Yes - Im amazed more people don't see that. Even if this flops - the desire of the owners of those top clubs won't change. They will probably get more or less what they want over the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: There is an agreement apparently that no club in the ESL will spend anymore than 55% of income on player wages. Surely they will be able to spend less on player fees and wages because their income stream will no longer be dependent on qualifying for european football (by beating 16 other teams over the course of a season in an open competition) and does this not mean that the "product" that they are so keen to share wiith their emerging markets will actually decline in quality when they no longer have to target the top players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Clubs arriving at the 14 PL'ers meeting today. Edited April 20, 2021 by magnkarl 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: And another by OGS, they will not need top managers when they can't lose whatever happens. This will be a trend. dont forget Andrea Pirlo as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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