Pongo Waring Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: Don't think he is dropping mcginn, unless his form drops of. Mcginn was clearly preferred over Tielemans last season. Also having Nedeljkovic (unproven 18 year old) in starting 11 over Cash or Konsa is a bit of a stretch. Nedeljkovic played UCL football tbf. Age is just a number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Nedeljkovic played UCL football tbf. Age is just a number. So did Wesley and Samatta. Meaningless. No way he starts Nedeljkovic against West ham if Konsa or Cash are fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 13 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: Don't think he is dropping mcginn, unless his form drops of. Mcginn was clearly preferred over Tielemans last season. Also having Nedeljkovic (unproven 18 year old) in starting 11 over Cash or Konsa is a bit of a stretch. Cash is one the most replaceable players in the team imo. Konsa playing RB was indicative of that. If Kosta proves to be effective both ways (defence/attack), he'll start. I don't think SJM is a guaranteed starter, but for everything he offers in doggedness, I don't think he beats out Onana or Kamara in CM, so therefore he is competing with Tielemans and Bailey for a position higher up. Swapping with Bailey will be situational and so he's most likely to be competing with Tielemans. It's a nice problem to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 hours ago, TRO said: Or Barkley next to Onana, with McGinn on the bench in a 4 2 3 1 does look a strong bench We have so many options in midfield but whatever way you look at it McGinn will start. Either in midfield or tucking in from the left. Unai loves him and I don’t think anyone can replace his energy. But great problems to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytenjobs Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, Tubby said: Nice attempt, but there is a lot wrong with this. Ramsey plays on the left or centre-left, whereas you have him on the right. Likewise, SJM is more likely to play right or centre-right. JPB, whilst versatile, will likely spell Bailey on the WR, rather than join the left rotation with; Ramsey, Rogers, Iling-Jr. We are unlikely to need Cash to play high up on the right, due to the strength already in that area. Naturally, he may (as might Kosta) progress into those areas, but he's not starting as a RM/RW. The same goes for Maatsen. Quite possible however, that both he and Cash/Kosta, play WB in a back 5, but that will be situational e.g. away to a team with a good home record and playing on the counter. Kamara isn't a bench player. He'll start when fit, even if alongside Onana. Imho, the most likely formation when all players are fit, will be 4-3-2-1 ------------------------- Ollie ----------------------- ------------------ Rogers ------------- Bailey - ------------------------ Tielemans -------------- --------------- Kamara - Onana -------------- Maatsen - Pau - Konsa - Nedeljković ------------------- Martinez---------------------- Also, I do not mean to be a pedant, but it's quite easy to check the spellings of player names; Rogers, Maatsen, Tielemans, Digne, Kosta (Nedeljković). As has been pointed out on many previous occasions and not to be a pedent ....but Danny_villaman is someone who struggles a little with his sight .....might be worth a back read ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, tommytenjobs said: As has been pointed out on many previous occasions and not to be a pedent ....but Danny_villaman is someone who struggles a little with his sight .....might be worth a back read ...... It's not fair to assume that everyone would know that and I certainly wasn't picking on him, it's just not who I am. We all have our challenges, admittedly not all as debilitating. For instance, I myself, am dyslexic. You might often notice edits on my posts and that's because I read them back and fill in all the words I miss, or correct misspellings. It's good to know this about @Danny_Villaman84 and I apologise if any offence caused. Community in action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jas10 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 JJ AND PHILOGENE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 56 minutes ago, Herman22 said: We have so many options in midfield but whatever way you look at it McGinn will start. Either in midfield or tucking in from the left. Unai loves him and I don’t think anyone can replace his energy. But great problems to have. McGinn can slot in anywhere; CM, left, right or as the 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, Herman22 said: We have so many options in midfield but whatever way you look at it McGinn will start. Either in midfield or tucking in from the left. Unai loves him and I don’t think anyone can replace his energy. But great problems to have. Could, we’ll be…..but subs, could be more widely used and gives the manager, a better leaning towards tactics as opposed to energy conservation, which was a huge consideration for him, last season, with all the cruel long term injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 On 20/07/2024 at 11:14, Czarnikjak said: I can see this starting 11 against West Ham (unless some injuries happen or we sign someone significantly better). Martinez Cash, Konsa, Torres, Maatsen Bailey, Onana, Tielemans, Rodgers Mcginn, Watkins Happy with this starting 11? Who would you replace? (I'm assuming here Mings, Buendia and Ramsey are not 100% fit to start the game after hardly playing a game in last 12 months). That looks about right. But he might start Digne instead of Maatsen just because Maatsen doesn't know the system yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tubby said: Cash is one the most replaceable players in the team imo. Konsa playing RB was indicative of that. If Kosta proves to be effective both ways (defence/attack), he'll start. He will probably make a few appearances as a sub in "safe" situations to get used to the league before he makes a start. Like the other newcomers, he also needs time to learn the system. Edit: The one newcomer that we're likely to see right away is Onana because he knows the league and he's filling the badly needed role we've needed since Kamara's injury. Edited July 22 by TomC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 Watkins Rogers - Felix - Jaden Onana - Tielemans Hubba hubba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattVillaPortsmouth Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 The way I see it currently (Presuming Duran/Diaby out, no one else in) My first XI would be and then a cup team of I feel we are stronger, Emi B a lot depends on recovery (as with mings), than last season - especially if JJ gets back to where he was - I can see him, Ollie and Morgz really working together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 22 Moderator Share Posted July 22 We're ridiculously deep - if everyone is fit, then you could have a starting matchday squad of: Martinez, Konsa, Carlos, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Kamara, McGinn, Bailey, Rogers, Watkins subs Olsen, Digne, Nedeljkovic, Mings, Barkley, Tielemans, Ramsey, Philogene, Duran That'd give you this team that wouldn't even make the bench in our first choice matchday twenty but you'd fancy to do well in the Championship! Gauci, Cash, Feeney, Hause, Moreno, Barrenechea, Dendoncker, Buendia, Illing-Junior, Dobbin, Archer And even then, you've got the likes of Kesler-Hayden, Swinkels, Bogarde and Barry that don't make that side! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 55 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: We're ridiculously deep - if everyone is fit, then you could have a starting matchday squad of: Martinez, Konsa, Carlos, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Kamara, McGinn, Bailey, Rogers, Watkins subs Olsen, Digne, Nedeljkovic, Mings, Barkley, Tielemans, Ramsey, Philogene, Duran That'd give you this team that wouldn't even make the bench in our first choice matchday twenty but you'd fancy to do well in the Championship! Gauci, Cash, Feeney, Hause, Moreno, Barrenechea, Dendoncker, Buendia, Illing-Junior, Dobbin, Archer And even then, you've got the likes of Kesler-Hayden, Swinkels, Bogarde and Barry that don't make that side! In what world does Cash not even make the bench. Buendia has lots of PL experience he's a cert for bench also. Other than that we have amazing depth I do agree. We are still short at CB though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 hours ago, MattVillaPortsmouth said: The way I see it currently (Presuming Duran/Diaby out, no one else in) My first XI would be and then a cup team of I feel we are stronger, Emi B a lot depends on recovery (as with mings), than last season - especially if JJ gets back to where he was - I can see him, Ollie and Morgz really working together. you forgot Barkley! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 22 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: We're ridiculously deep - if everyone is fit, then you could have a starting matchday squad of: Martinez, Konsa, Carlos, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Kamara, McGinn, Bailey, Rogers, Watkins subs Olsen, Digne, Nedeljkovic, Mings, Barkley, Tielemans, Ramsey, Philogene, Duran That'd give you this team that wouldn't even make the bench in our first choice matchday twenty but you'd fancy to do well in the Championship! Gauci, Cash, Feeney, Hause, Moreno, Barrenechea, Dendoncker, Buendia, Illing-Junior, Dobbin, Archer And even then, you've got the likes of Kesler-Hayden, Swinkels, Bogarde and Barry that don't make that side! Nice, but for the love of god put Gauci on the bench :; 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 If Ramsey is fit and firing he's straight into the team for me. Him, Rogers, Watkins, Bailey then you can pick whichever two CMs you like. It would be Onana and Tielemans at the moment I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 26 minutes ago, romavillan said: Nice, but for the love of god put Gauci on the bench :; Why is Gauci amazing? He was in goal for team that conceded fair amount in A-League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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