Keener window-cleaner Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 37 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: I'm old enough to remember Ugo's debut. Looked like he'd never played football before. Conversely, I remember Nii Lamptey's debut too. Looked like the greatest footballer of all time. Ohh that Nii Lamptey debut, can't remember many players I got so excited about on their debuts, perhaps Adama Traore away to Crystal Palace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 16 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Fair but let's go through the team and see where they all were at age 20. Wonder how many of them you would have watched and said they would one day be at Champions league level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted August 31 Popular Post Share Posted August 31 Another thread to close down because you can't say when players played crap anymore. We also need to keep thanking Hause, Chamberlinho and the likes for helping us to the top 4 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted August 31 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31 10 hours ago, villa4europe said: Come on the boy! You are John Paul II and I claim my pink covered £5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hank Scorpio Posted August 31 Popular Post Share Posted August 31 I think it's fair to say you can't made a proper informed opinion after 1 game. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 56 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Another thread to close down because you can't say when players played crap anymore. We also need to keep thanking Hause, Chamberlinho and the likes for helping us to the top 4 He didn’t play great, and got completely done for their goal. But given he’s only 20, and had quite a few positive moments in the game, I’m pretty optimistic he’ll turn out to be a useful player for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KentVillan said: He didn’t play great, and got completely done for their goal. But given he’s only 20, and had quite a few positive moments in the game, I’m pretty optimistic he’ll turn out to be a useful player for us. You can't say that I'm afraid. He played crap and will never make it. End of. Edited August 31 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fight Like Lions Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Ohh that Nii Lamptey debut, can't remember many players I got so excited about on their debuts, perhaps Adama Traore away to Crystal Palace. Tony Moon anyone? Seems a lifetime ago now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Fight Like Lions said: Tony Moon anyone? Seems a lifetime ago now Who need Benteke when you have Gestede? We can go on forever. I think with Bogarde you have to ask was he a player completely out of his depth that won't make it at this level or a 20 year old with potential playing his first ever Premier League game against a very physical team in a very hostile atmosphere. I personally think it was the latter but that's probably because we won. Maybe a loan to Championship would have been good for him. Edited August 31 by Vive_La_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I’ve watched a different game, I thought he was fine, possibly slightly better than fine, a net positive performance with some surprisingly bold moments. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Indigo Posted August 31 Popular Post Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Another thread to close down because you can't say when players played crap anymore. We also need to keep thanking Hause, Chamberlinho and the likes for helping us to the top 4 20 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You can't say that I'm afraid. He played crap and will never make it. End of. VillaTalk in a nutshell is two people freely saying contrasting things whilst each claiming they're apparently not allowed to do so. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, Indigo said: VillaTalk in a nutshell is two people freely saying contrasting things whilst each claiming they're apparently not allowed to do so. My post was taking the piss out of the other one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Think there’s some classic overreactions in here but that being said it’s a bit alarming we have to rely on an inexperienced player in a top flight game when we are a CL team. It’s incredible that we haven’t addressed the RB position unless Unai is far more confident in and reliant on Cash than we realised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLVillan Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Spoony said: Think there’s some classic overreactions in here but that being said it’s a bit alarming we have to rely on an inexperienced player in a top flight game when we are a CL team. It’s incredible that we haven’t addressed the RB position unless Unai is far more confident in and reliant on Cash than we realised. Red Star Belgrade relied on an unproven 17 year old right back in the Champions League, and Dortmund had a young left back who had barely made an appearance in a top flight league before being named to the team of the tournament....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted September 1 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, FLVillan said: Red Star Belgrade relied on an unproven 17 year old right back in the Champions League, and Dortmund had a young left back who had barely made an appearance in a top flight league before being named to the team of the tournament....... Bogarde or Ned won't be the youngest this year, I suspect. Something tells me this 17-yo lad is going to get a match or two for Barça this fall. Edited September 1 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Segundo Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Bogarde played fine until he got skinned for the goal. That seemed to rattle him and he went downhill after that. Not perfect but not a disaster either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 He played well in an unfamiliar position, did everything right apart from misplaced passes and the error on the goal. It was just nerves, he will get better i am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 I thought he struggled at times especially in the second half, not a great debut (yes I know not technically his debut) but he’s been thrown completely in, and he coped just about OK. At fault for the goal but was clearly struggling at that point with fatigue and should have been subbed a few minutes before. Being thrown straight into the starting 11 of the PL is no easy task at all, he’s not been given any Micky mouse cup games or easy minutes off the bench to warm up to it, just straight in. It will be a huge learning curve for him, with these players it will take them several games just to get used to the basics at PL level before you can start thinking about anything else. Will be interesting to see if he is utilised more or if it was just a needs must scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, Spoony said: Think there’s some classic overreactions in here but that being said it’s a bit alarming we have to rely on an inexperienced player in a top flight game when we are a CL team. It’s incredible that we haven’t addressed the RB position unless Unai is far more confident in and reliant on Cash than we realised. Have Liverpool not had to draw on their academy/youth players a lot over the past few years? Sure you could find examples for other CL teams as well, we'll be fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Makes his debut out of position, made a mistake for their goal and looked tired in the second half and misplaced a few passes. But the most important thing is we won. If Unai trusts him, then so do I. He's going to have a part to play this season and I'm sure he'll do just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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