lexicon Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 18 minutes ago, PaulC said: But I thought his strength on the ball was one of the reasons we signed him. But it's one friendly game so not going to judge It doesn't matter how strong you are on the ball if it's a shit pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Dendoncker is better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Let's not write him off yet ffs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I wonder as a percentage how many members of this forum are supporters of rival teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adam2003 Posted August 1 Popular Post Share Posted August 1 I was at the game, we are in the US at the moment. Really stupid to give away the goal but what I loved seeing was him and Onana had an immediate five-minute chat (as Olsen was getting treated) working through why it happened and how their positions should have been different. And that’s what preseason is for. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 People forgetting that it was a pre-season friendly game ffs. You'd think he had just cost us the FA Cup final 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 1 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1 lol, the scapegoat has been chosen! I'll wait till he's actually played a few competitive games before I start to think it might not work, even then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 hours ago, VillanousOne said: was he though? Seem to recall him and Kamara getting caught in possession and giving away penalties on recovering tackles a lot, McGinn aswell I think when he played deeper. we got better at beating the press, but still had lapses - having Torres to come forward to create space was key, or Luiz etc having someone coming deeper to take the ball was key. Rather than everyone just wandering up field which has been what the friendlies have been like. Barkley does look rusty, but will reserve judgement till we actually start our best team - as our selections have been pretty all over the place in these friendlies - as - they are friendlies Luiz always seemed to fall down easy when under pressure thinking he was going to get a free kick, and then when none was given we were getting countered while he's laying on the ground. Happened nearly every game, used to infuriate me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, TreeVillan said: I wonder as a percentage how many members of this forum are supporters of rival teams? Oh I think they support villa, but first and foremost they are fans of their own opinions and intelligence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 He's a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, lainux said: He can't play out from the back with pressure on the ball which is key to our play. Luiz was the best at that. People who were all aboard the "sell Luiz, he's not even that good" train are in for a rude awakening this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, lainux said: He can't play out from the back with pressure on the ball which is key to our play. Luiz was the best at that. This is why we signed Barrenechea. Not what Barkley was signed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 1 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1 14 minutes ago, est1874 said: He's a sub. this, mostly fart but some shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I don't think he's been bad in general, but with that he's made some basic errors, and I think people have become fixated on those rather than his overall performances, similar happened with both Mings and Watkins in former times no longer with us, Watkins would play well but miss a chance and that would get focused on, Ings would get way less criticism despite overall not doing as much Watkins, and Mings would do fine, but that would get ignored by many if he made a mistake, even if mistake didn't lead to a goal, i had a look on Tielemans thread early last season and up until October he was getting lampooned to the moon and back, just as it was early too judge Tielemans, it's now too early too judge Barkley, even more so for Barkley given he's only played about two games of football, and those in disjointed teams, playing what are essentially training games, he's probably not going to be as good as Luiz, but he's not expected to be, he's here to add something similar to what Tielemans does, and if ever he or Tielemans gets injured at least we've still got that skillset 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I can see why people are a little concerned at the moment, as he has had a couple of similar wobbles in his first few matches back with us during the pre-season. It did look like he was fouled last night, but even so it is not what you want to see from your CM right in front of goal. Hopefully he can iron these things out before the season starts as he is a decent technical player. Hopefully as the players old and new become familiar with each other, these issues will be a distant memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 26 minutes ago, est1874 said: He's a sub. will he sink to new depths? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 21 minutes ago, useless said: I don't think he's been bad in general, but with that he's made some basic errors, and I think people have become fixated on those rather than his overall performances, similar happened with both Mings and Watkins in former times no longer with us, Watkins would play well but miss a chance and that would get focused on, Ings would get way less criticism despite overall not doing as much Watkins, and Mings would do fine, but that would get ignored by many if he made a mistake, even if mistake didn't lead to a goal, i had a look on Tielemans thread early last season and up until October he was getting lampooned to the moon and back, just as it was early too judge Tielemans, it's now too early too judge Barkley, even more so for Barkley given he's only played about two games of football, and those in disjointed teams, playing what are essentially training games, he's probably not going to be as good as Luiz, but he's not expected to be, he's here to add something similar to what Tielemans does, and if ever he or Tielemans gets injured at least we've still got that skillset You can tell in games if certain players misplace one pass or something similar you just know that's what's going to get exaggerated beyond comprehension. One moment is enough to make some quite dogged opinions on here quite a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 58 minutes ago, est1874 said: This is why we signed Barrenechea. Not what Barkley was signed for. Barrenechea won't be anywhere near our starting 11 this season (unless massive injury crisis strikes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, Tom13 said: Let's not write him off yet ffs Already watched him plenty mate And he don't have the Gerrard excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 1 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1 (edited) "Barkley was beaten." I'd call that suppurating tripe. Even some of the professional match reports are just a joke. Makes you wonder how much bandwagon bullshit we're reading routinely in the football media, but this was an American telly production with American video feeds and -- well -- it wasn't great and it was horribly edited. Yesterday's first goal by Silva occurred because 1) Olsen's pass to Barkley was completely stupid and rushed and way too risky (Pau was wide open on Robin's left and not in traffic -- why give it to Ross when Leipzig are pressing centrally like a hurricane????) and 2) Amadou Haidara was practically on Ross the moment the ball came to him (already so close to goal), and 3) when Ross stepped forward towards our goal to evade Haidara with the ball still in his control, he slipped. Simple as that. I was 20 metres away and saw it plain as day. Ross fought to get back to the ball he himself had moved towards the goal line to get it away from Haidara. He wasn't "beaten" any day of the week. That's complete bullshit. You want to call slipping in the rain in 90-degree heat "being beaten" after a shit pass, go ahead. Not saying Barkley covered himself in glory yesterday, but I hate when people make stuff up, and in this case, Olsen actually deserves the blame. Not sure exactly when the rain started, but it definitely made things slippery. Edited August 1 by Marka Ragnos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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