Chindie Posted April 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2023 The series is very good. And I do think Reynolds and McElhenny are good people trying to do right by the club, they've done things right. They're still basically doing the same thing Citeh have done though. It's good for Wrexham obviously and they're a 'league standard' club that's suffered from horrific mismanagement so in a way feels a little more... acceptable that they've benefitted like this. But it's still not really a fairytale. They've blown away their competition with investment. They stopped being underdogs the second they got bought by people with deep pockets that they were prepared to use, and did - getting successful League standard managers and players in, using their profile to get sponsored by companies the National League couldn't even dream of... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post avfc1982am Posted April 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, robby b said: McEllheny. Jeez.... Come on Robby. There is a vid on the last page. "You'll probably f*** it up but give it a try"... It's....Mcelhenney. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Chindie said: The series is very good. And I do think Reynolds and McElhenny are good people trying to do right by the club, they've done things right. They're still basically doing the same thing Citeh have done though. It's good for Wrexham obviously and they're a 'league standard' club that's suffered from horrific mismanagement so in a way feels a little more... acceptable that they've benefitted like this. But it's still not really a fairytale. They've blown away their competition with investment. They stopped being underdogs the second they got bought by people with deep pockets that they were prepared to use, and did - getting successful League standard managers and players in, using their profile to get sponsored by companies the National League couldn't even dream of... Is it the same as City though. Inflated sponsorships using the owners dough to prop up the investment, player wages being subsidised externally. Not sure Wrexham have done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: Is it the same as City though. Inflated sponsorships using the owners dough to prop up the investment, player wages being subsidised externally. Not sure Wrexham have done that. The effect is the same, but yes they've not, to anyone's knowledge, cheated in the manner Citeh have done. They've still been playing the the national league on easy mode due to the money they've been able to spend. They've just done it 'legitimately', rather than Citeh's blatant cheating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Folski said: I see Ben Foster was wearing a chest cam for the game Saturday? Had never seen one of these used in a match before. he wore them quite a bit, he has a youtube channel where he posts the vids of his in game chest cam stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ThunderPower_14 Posted April 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2023 While I know they've bought the league, I think there is something fundamentally different from self-made millionaires worth a few hundred million combined and the multibillionaire petrol barons and hedge fund bankers that dominate the premier league. Where the money comes from is pretty important in terms of the level of disgust. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 6 hours ago, Wainy316 said: You've never heard of Ryan Reynolds? Nope. I spend most of my life travelling, except for the last 6 months when I've been mostly based back in England. I don't watch TV and very rarely watch films. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 hours ago, avfc1982am said: Jeez.... Come on Robby. There is a vid on the last page. "You'll probably f*** it up but give it a try"... It's....Mcelhenney. Oops. :s Sorry Mr Mcelhenney! And there I was feeling confident I might have got it just right. Good grief, I don't think I've ever misspelt someone's name so much in my life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Nope. I spend most of my life travelling, except for the last 6 months when I've been mostly based back in England. I don't watch TV and very rarely watch films. You must have heard of Aviation Gin then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Chindie said: The effect is the same, but yes they've not, to anyone's knowledge, cheated in the manner Citeh have done. They've still been playing the the national league on easy mode due to the money they've been able to spend. They've just done it 'legitimately', rather than Citeh's blatant cheating. Easy mode. Took until the penultimate match of the season to win promotion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: You must have heard of Aviation Gin then. Nope. And I drink gin in bars all over the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chindie said: McElhenny Oh for goodness sake... It's Mcelhenney. Small first E, not a capital. And there's an e before the y. (No, seriously though you were much closer than me, as in my post on the previous page). : > Edited April 24, 2023 by robby b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chindie Posted April 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2023 55 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Easy mode. Took until the penultimate match of the season to win promotion. They've had a season where they've had a very good team fighting them, but the 2 have blown the league away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Easy mode. Took until the penultimate match of the season to win promotion. The team chasing them has broken the previous National League record for points, the previous National League record for goals scored, the previous National League record for games lost and has the record National League top scorer… …and yet even so Wrexham have won the league with a game to spare. Easy mode, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, bobzy said: The team chasing them has broken the previous National League record for points, the previous National League record for goals scored, the previous National League record for games lost and has the record National League top scorer… …and yet even so Wrexham have won the league with a game to spare. Easy mode, yes. I fundamentally disagree with you, as do seemingly most others. It’s a pointless debate because neither side is going to yield. I think it’s great, you think it represents the evil in football amid a nostalgic desire for things to go back to how they used to be, which ain’t gonna happen. Money drives football, as it drives anything and everything, typically the more money you have the better you will perform, but it’s not a guarantee - ask Todd Boehly (or however it’s spelt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I fundamentally disagree with you, as do seemingly most others. It’s a pointless debate because neither side is going to yield. I think it’s great, you think it represents the evil in football amid a nostalgic desire for things to go back to how they used to be, which ain’t gonna happen. Money drives football, as it drives anything and everything, typically the more money you have the better you will perform, but it’s not a guarantee - ask Todd Boehly (or however it’s spelt). What do you disagree with me on? That it’s been easy for Wrexham or that they’re significantly financially stronger than every side in the National League (and League Two)? I haven’t once said that the owners are bad (in fact, I’ve praised them and said every club should have owners like them). I just root for the underdog naturally so when some club gets financially doped and hyped up, I go against wanting them to do well. That isn’t saying Wrexham are a horrible club or a stain on football or anything. Edited April 24, 2023 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Notts County is owned by foreign millionaires. With 2 games to go they could have won the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Chindie said: They're still basically doing the same thing Citeh have done though. Ah, I wasn't aware that Wrexham were (illegally) state owned and that they've been found to have cheated the league for the last 12 years. I thought these owners were actors, not leaders of a petrostate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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