May-Z Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, R.Bear said: First game back and all that but he was dreadful. Slow making decisions, indecisive and zero end product. Just another one of those nothing players we have in this squad. Bad take imo. You have just described Bailey. Traore controlled the ball well, worked in good passin movements, and actually beat opposition players without tripping over the ball. We looked better when the ball wasn't getting turned over so much on the right hand side. Not much, but better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Actually beat a player and had some decent ball control so already better than bailey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 He controlled the ball well. We really need him to start especially at games where we expect to attack more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Pretty much as I remember. Nice touch and beats a man here and there but nothing comes of it. I guess it was his first game back to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, R.Bear said: First game back and all that but he was dreadful. Slow making decisions, indecisive and zero end product. Just another one of those nothing players we have in this squad. What a load of bollocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Wow can't remember the last time he featured in a premier league game & hasn't played for some time due to injury & he gets panned for a 20 minute substitute apparence this site is bonkers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Stay classy VillaTalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 He was better than Bailey, kept the ball and didn't run into blind alleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Pretty much as I remember. Nice touch and beats a man here and there but nothing comes of it. Yeah, only 7 goals and 7 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Yeah, only 7 goals and 7 assists. In 50 games. Pretty much the same as Bailey's numbers. Not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, R.Bear said: In 50 games. Pretty much the same as Bailey's numbers. Not good enough. In 37. Gerrard didn't give him a fair shot. Tbf Traore has very good numbers wherever he's been, bizarrely apart from Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Yeah, only 7 goals and 7 assists. Numbers are irrelevant apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Yeah, only 7 goals and 7 assists. Bring back Anwar! Ok so let’s just look at numbers. Premier league appearance 56. 9 goals and 7 assists. (Most with no crowd which we all know impacts certain players massively). Bailey - 43 appearances. 5 goals and 4 assists. Give Bailey another 13 games and his numbers will be quite similar to Traore. Maybe neither of them are good enough ? Edited March 12, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Tom13 said: In 37. No, today was his 49th game for the club. If you're going to use stats, make sure you do your research. 52 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Tbf Traore has very good numbers wherever he's been, bizarrely apart from Turkey. Except in Turkey, for us and his last season in France. In other words, his stats have been poor for 4 seasons. I dont really care what he did before that. All that matters is what he's done and is doing for us. Edited March 12, 2023 by R.Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Hope fully move him on the summer. Just look at Bowen today, that is what a proper winger looks like 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zero7 said: Hope fully move him on the summer. Just look at Bowen today, that is what a proper winger looks like Bowen cannot do anything with a football that Bertie cannot do but 50% better. Not sure there is such thing as consistency in a winger unless you talk elite level - Bertie is mercurial, elegant, mesmerising and frustrating all rolled into one - but one thing for sure, he is significantly better than Bailey and is due a run in the team imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: Numbers are irrelevant apparently Bizarre comparison. Traore is a quick thinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, Zero7 said: Hope fully move him on the summer. Just look at Bowen today, that is what a proper winger looks like Agree. Both Traore and Bailey look poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, ChesterDad said: Bowen cannot do anything with a football that Bertie cannot do but 50% better. Not sure there is such thing as consistency in a winger unless you talk elite level - Bertie is mercurial, elegant, mesmerising and frustrating all rolled into one - but one thing for sure, he is significantly better than Bailey and is due a run in the team imo Bowen is by no means a " flashy " winger, but he damn sure is an effective one. The players who can combine the two are a step up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Ok so let’s just look at numbers. Premier league appearance 56. 9 goals and 7 assists. Bailey - 43 appearances. 5 goals and 4 assists. Give Bailey another 13 games and his numbers will be quite similar to Traore. So Bailey would need another 4 goals and 3 assists in the next 13 games to equal Traore. So as you say Traore is pretty similar to Bailey and neither are really good enough for the top half of the Premier League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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