Phil Silvers Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, HongKongVillan said: Looks like he will be back reporting for training soon Take him off asap, it will be nice to have a fit Bertie back in the camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, HongKongVillan said: Looks like he will be back reporting for training soon They play again on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 9 hours ago, AvonVillain said: Hate to say it, but Traore has been awful. Looks overly keen to impress or something. He is their marquee player and captain, the rest are pretty awful - their defence is shocking, they are walking round in a daze, they are like a pub team. That Senegal side is pretty decent, some very very good players (Champions League) on the field and on the bench too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 12 hours ago, Kingman said: They play again on Sunday It's been moved to Saturday. He'll surely be on bench for Leeds game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: It's been moved to Saturday. He'll surely be on bench for Leeds game You don’t reckon he’ll be given a bit of time off? The games in that humidity have been pretty intense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Looking forward to seeing him play again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Pointless games these 3rd place playoffs but at least we have some interest in it, hopefully a good performance from Bertie and no injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 22:06, Kingman said: They play again on Sunday Stupid having a 3rd place play off, he'll probably rupture his ACL in that and won't be seen for 12 months way the season has gone for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 03/02/2022 at 05:39, thunderball said: He is their marquee player and captain, the rest are pretty awful - their defence is shocking, they are walking round in a daze, they are like a pub team. That Senegal side is pretty decent, some very very good players (Champions League) on the field and on the bench too. Tapsoba of Bayer Leverkusen is a pretty good young CB actually for them, wonder if he's popped up on our radar when we were scouting Bailey last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) On 26/11/2021 at 15:02, Chine said: Unless Bertie has shown to be disinterested or difficult to deal with in the new ‘project Villa’ he won’t be up for sale just yet ,just tabloid BS He is probably the most unpredictable player we have, and some of his touches are sublime, trouble is, the opposition, don't know what he is going to do, and neither does his own players. That renders him a bit of a loose cannon. For entertainment great.....for winning football matches, lacks that certain discipline. Edited February 5, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, TRO said: He is probably the most unpredictable player we have, and some of his touches are sublime, trouble is, the opposition, don't know what he is going to do, and neither does his own players. That renders him a bit of a loose cannon. For entertainment great.....for winning football matches, lacks that certain discipline. It will be interesting to see how gerrard treats him. If he's happy to play second fiddle to buendia I can't imagine we could buy much better who is also happy with that arrangement, considering his G/A last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, TRO said: He is probably the most unpredictable player we have, and some of his touches are sublime, trouble is, the opposition, don't know what he is going to do, and neither does his own players. That renders him a bit of a loose cannon. For entertainment great.....for winning football matches, lacks that certain discipline. How can you say he lacks the discipline to win football matches? He has one of the best goal contribution ratios in the team - a stat I know you place a lot of stock in. Understanding between players can easily be built with a run of games playing with the same people. Something he never really got. I can't remember a single incident of him losing us points from being ill-disciplined/lazy/lackadaisical. Are there any? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: How can you say he lacks the discipline to win football matches? He has one of the best goal contribution ratios in the team - a stat I know you place a lot of stock in. Understanding between players can easily be built with a run of games playing with the same people. Something he never really got. I can't remember a single incident of him losing us points from being ill-disciplined/lazy/lackadaisical. Are there any? The terminology may have not been correct but surely you understand what he's getting at? The sliced clearances across our own box for example... Bert is a maverick and that's why a portion of the fanbase (myself included) love him and others hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MSvillain said: The terminology may have not been correct but surely you understand what he's getting at? The sliced clearances across our own box for example... Bert is a maverick and that's why a portion of the fanbase (myself included) love him and others hate him. I'm afraid I really don't understand. Edited February 5, 2022 by Sam-AVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: I'm afraid I really don't understand. OK, fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: How can you say he lacks the discipline to win football matches? He has one of the best goal contribution ratios in the team - a stat I know you place a lot of stock in. Understanding between players can easily be built with a run of games playing with the same people. Something he never really got. I can't remember a single incident of him losing us points from being ill-disciplined/lazy/lackadaisical. Are there any? I press my finger on the keyboard and press the buttons to spell out what I am saying..... seriously.....He gives the ball away or loses it too easily. He has scored 8 goals in 45 games giving a ratio of 5.6:1 That is hardly worth mentioning, but that is not the point. That is not what I am saying Ollie Watkins is 21 goals in 55 games, 2.6:1......so I don't know where you got that from?....but its way off the point, anyway. Giving the ball away or losing it, so cheaply, makes it hard to win football matches. So you don't agree....fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MSvillain said: It will be interesting to see how gerrard treats him. If he's happy to play second fiddle to buendia I can't imagine we could buy much better who is also happy with that arrangement, considering his G/A last season. He is a Maverick....but some folk, like that sort of thing....thats fine. Edited February 5, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Bertie is working his socks off, tracking back etc, he really does read VT for advice on his game, good lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2-0 to Bertie's team. 2nd goal was a weird one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, TRO said: He has scored 8 goals in 45 games giving a ratio of 5.6:1 That is hardly worth mentioning, but that is not the point. That is not what I am saying Ridiculous attempt at stats if not intentionally disingenuous considering how many of those would've been 5-10 min late subs. Do total minutes or per 90. He's made 42 PL appearances but per 90 only equates to 27.6 games Edited February 5, 2022 by Kiwivillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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